On Tuesday 24 August 2004 10:16 am, frankieh wrote:
> Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 August 2004 09:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> >>Dear list...
> >>
> >>I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of
> >> you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness :
> >>
> >>A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years
> >>old). She absolutely needed Windows in order to run some special,
> >>school-related apps. The PC came with WinXP pre-installed.
> >>
> >>The first thing I did was to install Mozilla, OpenOffice and some
> >>sort of firewall, called ZoneAlarm. Now, I thought it was safe....
> >>
> >>Suddenly, when she tries to send an e-mail (from within Mozilla, of
> >>course, I'm not THAT stupid), up pops a message from our ISP saying
> >>that the box is compromized, accordingly the smtp-server won't
> >>accept the mail. In fact, her IP was blacklisted.
> >>
> >>Some on-line security scans, revealed no less than 159 trojans,
> >>worms and viruses !
> >>
> >>After heavy googling around, I purchased a spyware/trojan scanner
> >>called XoftSpy, which cleaned most of the shit. But nevertheless, a
> >>spyware trojan keeps coming in (SAHAgent). No matter what I do.
> >>(The bugger doesn't show up in ControlPanel --> Remove software).
> >>
> >>Well, I know next to nothing about Windows, but before I subscribe
> >>to a windows-list (which I would hate, really), I would like to ask
> >>if you can recommend :
> >>
> >>1. A good, reliable firewall for Windows (preferably OSS and free)
> >> ? 2. A spyware/trojan/worm cleaner capable of removing all malware
> >> ? 3. Shutting down the whole kaboodle and wait for SP2 ?
> >>
> >>Many thanks and apologies in advance
> >>
> >>Kaj Haulrich.
> >
> > Kaj:
> > I know nothing about windows.  But while I had XP installed it came
> > with Norton.  While running norton I never was infected with
> > anything.  But while installing XP the last thing I did was install
> > norton and while downloading the database that was when I got all
> > kinds of infection once the database was installed it was AOK. 
> > They do have on their website removers for most infections, IIRC
> > you have to be a paid up member to get them ($15 or so).
>
> Numerous tests have shown that Nortons is one of the slower scanners
> with a high CPU and memory footprint.
> It isn't any more effective then any of the others, and its usually
> more expensive.
>
> I look after allot of windows clients, and I've managed to keep them
> all virus free, and didn't use Nortons on any of them.
> (though I might if I want to convince them to upgrade their PC's.)
Maybe thats why it came with the system.
-- 
Regards:
Hoyt
Registered Linux User # 363264
http://counter.li.org

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