Actually, Mike's response was right on the mark, he gets it more than
you think.  I for one want to learn.  I have learned from the (mostly)
good folks on this list.
Valjean

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> Mike....never mind, you just don't seem to get it.  I consider
> this subject closed.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> Mike Corbeil wrote:
> > 
> > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > 
> > > Mike....correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the guy who's
> > > been telling some folks in this list that their questions aren't
> > > appropriate for this forum and to go ask them in the expert
> > > list?  Well I think that your response in this thread (quoted
> > > below) was not appropriate for the newbie list.  The remedy here
> > > was very simple and your four rambling paragraphs have simply
> > > served to confuse the issue.
> > >
> > 
> > Not really, but then maybe I've been accustomed to less than trivial for longer
> [snip]
> [snip]
> > argumentation or discourse.
> > 
> > mike
> > 
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > Mike Corbeil wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Bob....you also need to include  umask=0  on that line in
> > > > > /etc/fstab.
> > > >
> > > > Must be a fairly new requirement, or there's a difference in the default
> > > > umask value between RH 5.1 and Mandrake, because I don't need umask=0 to be
> > > > able to write to my dos partitions.  I merely set it to noauto,rw and this
> > > > is adequate.
> > > >
> > > > The only reason you'ld need to included umask=0 is because of the
> > > > system-wide default value for it, probably defined in /etc/profile or
> > > > /etc/bashrc.  This may also depend on whether you're allowing only root to
> > > > write or make changes to the dos partitions, or also allowing users.  I
> > > > don't give users access to my dos partitions, albeit it's a standalone
> > > > system and I'm the only user anyway.
> > > >
> > > > I read somewhere, recently, that umask should be set to 0 in the system-wide
> > > > login scripts, but that's the opinion of one author of documentation.  If,
> > > > however, you're going to set umask to 0 for the dos partition(s), then you
> > > > might want to simply set the system-wide value to this anyway, which means
> > > > you wouldn't need to include this in fstab.
> > > >
> > > > You'ld need to do some research through various documents which touch upon
> > > > this subject, before taking my word as gospel.
> > > >
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan
> > > > >
> > > > > Cox Family wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > another stumper for me?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just wanted to make a new directory on the DOS partition that I could
> > > > > > put some WP8 files in (because the apostrophe comes out on the printer
> > > > > > as something stupid in Linux right now) and it said I didn't have
> > > > > > permission. I checked the "fstab" and hda1 includes "user" in
> > > > > > permissions. I checked properties by right-clicking on the icon and it
> > > > > > includes user, group and others for both read and write.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, so I made the directory as super-user, gave it "a+rwx" permissions,
> > > > > > and still couldn't save a file in it. Access denied. No permission to
> > > > > > write or what ever....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, what am I missing here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob
> 
> 

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