Mike....the subject that I consider closed is the conversation I
was attempting to have with you.  We very obviously disagree as
to what this forum is for and I wish to discontinue messaging
with you about it as I consider stretching this out any further
to be inappropriate for this venue.  Please don't answer this. 
Let it end.  I will not participate further.

Good bye,
Alan


Mike Corbeil wrote:
> 
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> > Mike....never mind, you just don't seem to get it.  I consider
> > this subject closed.
> 
> Maybe for you, but if others wish to provide more educational information, then
> believe me when I tell you, I'll be glad to read it.  You can just skip the thread.
[snip]
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> mike
> 
> >
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Mike Corbeil wrote:
> > >
> > > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mike....correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the guy who's
> > > > been telling some folks in this list that their questions aren't
> > > > appropriate for this forum and to go ask them in the expert
> > > > list?  Well I think that your response in this thread (quoted
> > > > below) was not appropriate for the newbie list.  The remedy here
> > > > was very simple and your four rambling paragraphs have simply
> > > > served to confuse the issue.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not really, but then maybe I've been accustomed to less than trivial for longer
> > [snip]
> > [snip]
> > > argumentation or discourse.
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > > Mike Corbeil wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bob....you also need to include  umask=0  on that line in
> > > > > > /etc/fstab.
> > > > >
> > > > > Must be a fairly new requirement, or there's a difference in the default
> > > > > umask value between RH 5.1 and Mandrake, because I don't need umask=0 to be
> > > > > able to write to my dos partitions.  I merely set it to noauto,rw and this
> > > > > is adequate.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only reason you'ld need to included umask=0 is because of the
> > > > > system-wide default value for it, probably defined in /etc/profile or
> > > > > /etc/bashrc.  This may also depend on whether you're allowing only root to
> > > > > write or make changes to the dos partitions, or also allowing users.  I
> > > > > don't give users access to my dos partitions, albeit it's a standalone
> > > > > system and I'm the only user anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > I read somewhere, recently, that umask should be set to 0 in the system-wide
> > > > > login scripts, but that's the opinion of one author of documentation.  If,
> > > > > however, you're going to set umask to 0 for the dos partition(s), then you
> > > > > might want to simply set the system-wide value to this anyway, which means
> > > > > you wouldn't need to include this in fstab.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'ld need to do some research through various documents which touch upon
> > > > > this subject, before taking my word as gospel.
> > > > >
> > > > > mike
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cox Family wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > another stumper for me?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just wanted to make a new directory on the DOS partition that I could
> > > > > > > put some WP8 files in (because the apostrophe comes out on the printer
> > > > > > > as something stupid in Linux right now) and it said I didn't have
> > > > > > > permission. I checked the "fstab" and hda1 includes "user" in
> > > > > > > permissions. I checked properties by right-clicking on the icon and it
> > > > > > > includes user, group and others for both read and write.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, so I made the directory as super-user, gave it "a+rwx" permissions,
> > > > > > > and still couldn't save a file in it. Access denied. No permission to
> > > > > > > write or what ever....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Again, what am I missing here?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob

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