Jeff
I have been trying to decide if upgrading to PM 5 would be worth the $20
tag. Between PM 4 and DiskDrake I can do most anything anything I choose so
I think I will save the money. Thanks for your imput.
In as far as I am aware increasing the # of partition you use offers no
more protection than if you use the default.. There always exist in
the process of upgrading the possibility that you could lose settings/data.
It does not happen often but it does happen.
Even increasing the # partitions for the purpose of backup is usefull
only if you wanted to backup and restore entire partitions. But then again
I could see myself backing up a partition to a CD, Upgrading and then
copying what data I wanted from the CD to the new installation. I suppose I
am being 2 faced. You should decide which way would be easiest/best for you.
One of the beauties of Linux is that, with just a few exceptions, there
is no "right" way that things "have" to be done and as such no "wrong" way.
Most of the time it is simply a matter of personal preference.
Charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Malka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help
> I'll answer the one question I can! I have PM 5.0. It can see and create
> Linux xf2 and swap partitions. In fact I have used it for that purpose
and
> then let Linux re-format them because I had mnessed up my partition table
> when I let Linux do the whole thing - possibly my fault. I have not tried
> to use PM to resize or move Linux partitions but apparently it can.
>
> Following on your explanation, is the reason to use several partitions
only
> for ease of backups? I though I read somewhere that it was to protect
apps
> when upgrading, but I may have been wrong. Too much new Linux data in my
> poor brain.
>
> > Remember Linux is not Windows. You control it, it does not control
you.
> >
> Hey, I am an old OS/2 person. Love Linux but honestly until I learn more,
> it still is in the Linux controlling me phase. Hopefully that will change
> soon.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
>
> Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Registered Linux user 183185
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help
>
>
> > Jeff
> > I got tied up yesterday and was not able to get back to you, Sorry.
> >
> > You could create a boot partition but there would be nothing to put
in
> it
> > if you are using Grub. I have never used LILO ( in 7.0 it would not
> install
> > on my sysytem and in 7.1 I went with the default, Grub) so I do not know
> if
> > it still uses a boot partition.
> > Nearly all the programs you will install in Linux, in part due to
> > dependence and trees, need to be installed in specfic
directories/folders.
> > Unless you know exactly what you are doing it is best not to change
these
> > locations.
> > When you say "re-install the OS" I take it that you mean re-install
in
> > the Windows way. This is not needed and in fact will not work in Linux.
> If
> > you are having problems with a program you can delete and re-install
the
> > package/RPM but as far the OS as a whole is concerned you install it as
> > either a New Installation , in which case it wipes you hd, or as an
> Upgrade,
> > in which case programs/componets for which there are newer versions are
> > updated but any settings or program edits which you have made will not
be
> > changed.
> >
> > I have PM 4.0 which can see but not read my Linux partition so it
shows
> > just a single Type 85 partition therefore I can make no changes to it
> using
> > PM. Is this still the case with PM 5.01?
> >
> > Remember Linux is not Windows. You control it, it does not control
you.
> >
> > Charles :-)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Malka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Linux Newbie Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help
> >
> >
> > > Hi Charles
> > >
> > > I did install within the FAT extended partition and as predicted it
> messed
> > > up the MBR and partition table. But I was able to fix things. :-)
> > >
> > > Then I deleted the Linux partitions and shrunk the DOS extended
> partition
> > > and installed in the free space beyond and that install went fine
except
> > for
> > > the inability to install in pre-created Linux partitions because of
> size.
> > > It did create the 3 Linux partitions you mentioned. It would be nice
if
> > the
> > > install manual had somewhere the minimum sizes needed for the
different
> > > partitions.
> > >
> > > After I played with the present install (7.1) I will re-install into
> > > prepared partitions of the correct sizes. I do not know much about
> Linux
> > > yet. Is there not an advantage to having a separate /boot partition
> even
> > > with Grub?
> > >
> > > Also I experimented with installing WordPerfect 8 from a Mandrake 7.0
CD
> > (I
> > > am running 7.1) and that went effortlessly, except that I do not think
> it
> > > asked me "where" to install WP. Shouldn't I be installing commercial
> > > software in certain partitions and mount points in case of
re-installs
> of
> > > the OS?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help. It is much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Registered Linux user 183185
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > > Did you end up installing in your extended DOS partition?
> > > > The Automatic installation actually created 3 partitions, /,
/usr,
> > and
> > > > /swap. Using Grub a boot partition is not needed.
> > > > The custom install would not work becuse of the size of your /
> > > > partition. It need to be at least 600MB or larger, and your /usr
> > partition
> > > > should be larger.
> > > > If you have free space on the drive and are not worried about
> moving
> > > > anything in your current partitions you can use DiskDrak to create
> > > > additional partitions.
> > > >
> > > > Charles
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Eric MC.D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 4:12 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Jeff Malka wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just received my 7.1 CDs and installed Mandrake 7.1 with no
> > apparent
> > > > > > problems!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However that was no feat because I just used the "recommended"
> > > install.
> > > > > > That installed everything together and I would prefer to have
> > separate
> > > > > > partitions for various mounting points.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prior to goinf the "recommended" install root I tried a custom
> > install
> > > > with
> > > > > > the following partitions:
> > > > > > /boot 10 MB
> > > > > > /opt 516 MB
> > > > > > /usr 1000 MB
> > > > > > /home 1000 MB
> > > > > > / 66 MB
> > > > > > /var 66 MB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but the install told me that did not give it enough space to
> install
> > > all
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > A fully isntall take about 1,3GB.
> > > > > If it can help, mine is :
> > > > > /boot 30 MB (15 MB =Ok)
> > > > > /usr 3 GB (free 44%)
> > > > > / 800 MB (free 15%) (/opt included)
> > > > > /usr/local 620 MB (free 38%)
> > > > > /home 1,6GB (free 58%)
> > > > > swap 256MB
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > > > > packages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can someone tell me how large I need to make the various
> partitions
> > to
> > > > > > install a standard, normal install (not development, etc.)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since this is a brand new install, I do not mind re-installing
> into
> > > > separate
> > > > > > partitions if I only knew what sizes to make them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Registered Linux user 183185
> > > > >
> > > > >
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