You can just press the esc key to watch it boot as well. BTW, how do you run
32 bit applications in DOS?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > somebody said:
> > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells,
> > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a
> > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long
> > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few
> > cosmetic changes."
> >
> > nooooooo.....
> > don't make me go balistic.
> > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of
many of the DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the things
some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with
the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer & sent
that information to M$ when you logged on the internet). of course, M$
denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true. it may have a
new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better job of
hiding DOS.
> >
> > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood.
one case in point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS
box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had to come
up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98.
> >
> > that's my opinion....
> > and you all know what opinions are like
> > *haha*
> >
> > adrian
>
> Correct as far as you go Adrian, W98 is also still just A GUI
> runnin on top of good 'ol outdated 640K DOS. I don't know about
> win2k, don't have it don't want it. 'Bout all that windoze 9x is
> still the best at is a game platform, and everything I've read says
> W98's much better than win2k for that.
>
> DOS isn't hidden in any W9x, just edit MSDOS.SYS to BootGUI=0,
> and you'll boot to DOS 7.x (W98 is DOS 7.1). Add 'Logo=0' and you
> can watch it doin it. If you boot to DOS in any other fashion (eg,
> DosMode, <F8> at boot), a quick run of 'mem /c' will show there's
> some windoze overhead still present. If you edit msdos.sys to
> eliminate Windoze, 'mem /c' will show no Windoze overhead present.
> [note: all W9x CD's are not created equal, some will provide a
> pure DOS prompt by using F8 at boot]
>
> This 'pure' DOS prompt is suitable for even flashing your bios,
> MOF, I prefer it to doin flashes from a floppy. It also will
> sometimes get a DOS based program runnin which refuses to work
> right in DosMode, or <F8> Which is another reason to keep Windoze
> around, 'least for a while ;) That and rippin the TT fonts to use
> with Linux, so don't microwave those old W9x CD's just yet ;->
> --
> ~~ Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
