Tom, actually, i'm totally wrong as someone on the list pointed out to me.  i made 
myself look like an idiot  =)  but i'm touched that he (she? i didn't pay attention) 
cares about me.  =)

my only reason for suspecting that more happened between win95 and win98 is things 
such as my experience with PKZIP.  i never had win95 at home, just at work and used 
PKZIP there all the time.  when i got win98 at home & PKZIP crashed, i spent forever 
trying to figure out how to configure my DOS window settings, or whatever, as i 
figured that was the reason.  then i went to PKWares site & found out they did have a 
new program for win98.  so that is what makes me think something of substance took 
place between 95 & 98.

i also know nothing about win2000...   once i understand Linux i'm sure i will use 
win98 only for photoshop & games, so i don't think i'm going to spend any effort on 
win2000.  i have heard third hand reports of people who like win saying win2000 
stinks...  but have neither seen a 2000 system nor talked first had to anyone who has 
one.

and more comments below......

Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
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>>> Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1:35:35 PM 8/11/00 >>>
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote:
   Correct as far as you go Adrian, W98 is also still just A GUI
runnin on top of good 'ol outdated 640K DOS.  I don't know about
win2k, don't have it don't want it. 'Bout all that windoze 9x is
still the best at is a game platform, and everything I've read says
W98's much better than win2k for that.

   DOS isn't hidden in any W9x, just edit MSDOS.SYS to BootGUI=0,
and you'll boot to DOS 7.x (W98 is DOS 7.1). Add 'Logo=0' and you
can watch it doin it.  If you boot to DOS in any other fashion (eg,
DosMode, <F8> at boot), a quick run of 'mem /c' will show there's
some windoze overhead still present.  If you edit msdos.sys to
eliminate Windoze, 'mem /c' will show no Windoze overhead present.
  [note: all W9x CD's are not created equal, some will provide a
           pure DOS prompt by using F8 at boot]

my comment:  hmmmm  i thought i knew all the MSDOS.SYS tricks   =)   i never tried 
booting to DOS as you describe, i only use the F8 or boot option menu.  i will have to 
try this out.  thanks for the tip  (right now there are about 500 people going "this 
is a linux list!")  


   This 'pure' DOS prompt is suitable for even flashing your bios,
MOF, I prefer it to doin flashes from a floppy. It also will
sometimes get a DOS based program runnin which refuses to work
right in DosMode, or <F8>  Which is another reason to keep Windoze
around, 'least for a while ;)  That and rippin the TT fonts to use
with Linux, so don't microwave those old W9x CD's just yet ;-> 
-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman    [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


me again:  i agree, tho i hate win98 in may ways, it does have good things about it.  
i still have a second computer, MSDOS 6.2/Win3.1.  i like to fire it up and talk to my 
teenager friends about "the old days"

have a better one
adrian





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