On Friday 05 January 2001 05:46 pm, Tony Evans wrote:
> On Friday 05 January 2001 22:52, Tom wrote:
> > Try picking "monitor that will do 1024x768 @ 70" during setup. Then
> > run it at 800x600 if that's what you want.

> Wavy lines :(

> >  1024x768-70 is pretty much
> > what any monitor will handle comfortably.
>
> the VM350 will do 1024x768 at 85Hz with 32bpp colour.  I would like
> Linux to use it at that resolution if possible.  Unless what I'm
> seeing has nothing to do with refresh rate ...

    Without witnessing it in the flesh, I'm still inclined to put the 
blame on the ol' Matrox.  The monitor is certainly capable, the card, 
like i said before is weak.   .... and your eyeballs are only good for 
70hz or so anyhow, and if you can tell that much difference between 
65,000 shades and 16+ million... well you're Superman  ;)

>
> >  It's also how windoze would
> > run that monitor no matter what brand/model you pick from M$'s
> > endless
>
> Not true, Windows is running it at 85Hz, in either 800x600 or
> 1024x768 depending on how close I feel like sitting to it (again,
> 32bpp).

     Yeah, it is true 98+ % of the time.  No matter what you pick in 
the list, Windoze will drive it with either monitor.inf or monitor2.inf 
98+% of the time.  There's monitor3 -> 7.inf, but they're for strange, 
ancient, exotic, proprietary, or wierd hardware, not further up the 
scale.  IIyama is a monitor.inf (windoze default class) monitor. Look 
in c\windows\inf\  and open the monitor?.inf files with a text editor 
... I believe you'll see what I mean.  

>
> > horizontal and vertical frequencies is becoming obsolete, that's my
> > opinion anyhow ;>
>
> But none of the default settings get rid of the wobble, so either
> something is really wrong, or I'm going to need to set the values
> correctly, no?

 Get a better Vcard.  The Mystique was a good card in ancient 2d times,
and it isn't 3d/accel compatible, even in windoze now.  Check M$'s 
knowledge base, if it still goes back that far.  IIRC, the Mytique lost 
DirectX leagacy support a few years ago, and M$ is rapidly dropping all
legacy support.

  You can't just buy a decent monitor like your IIyama and expect good 
video.  What you see on the screen is a product of your motherboard, 
Vcard, monitor  .... down to, and including the quality of your power 
supply.   My best guess is you need a better Vcard .... just my opinion,
nothing more.  Just like my opinion is that hardware that works fine 
with windoze, but not with Linux  ... is a derogatory statement about 
the hardware.  OTOH, Linux is becoming more tolerant of marginal 
hardware, so you could just wait till Linux will run that ol' Vcard ;>
-- 
Tom Brinkman       [EMAIL PROTECTED]     Galveston Bay

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