You're looking through rose colored glasses. I think you better look at
Microsoft's new policy on what they support. They have dropped support
for number of their OSes. I take it you have never worked in an office
environment in software programming.


Solver wrote:
> 
> I love Microsoft. I respect Bill Gates. Not only they ain't my enemies -
> they are my friends. Yes, I like Linux, it's enhanced functionality and
> especially stability, but Microsoft were the first to do it. I believe that
> they're doing everything the right way.
> Also, the monopoly situation is very good for users. You can put your file
> on a disk, go to a friend being sure you'll find the same Windows and Word
> there. The worst I could imagine is this:
> Windows - 40%
> Linux - 30%
> MacOS - 10%
> BeOS - 5%
> Solaris - 5%
> Other - 5%
> Then you would be usnure as to what will you find there. If Linux user, you
> had to save both for Linux and Windows formats, and Mac doesn't read these
> disks. So, you would need to know specifically where are you going, and what
> the PCs are there. Each time I go to repair a PC, I'm almost sure what I'll
> see there.
> Microsoft are responsible for what they release. They provide the product to
> you, and given you buy it legally, they also provide you with support,
> updates, etc. You can register at Linux Counter and others, but they won't
> give you that support, even though bug reporting is awesome. And, another
> thing I love in Linux are the penguins. I love that they're everywhere, and
> one of my recompilation jobs will be to put even more penguins on their work
> at Linux desktop and applications. They just look cool - nice animals.
> 
> Also, I'd like to add that I hate to buy PC with preinstalled software. When
> I got one with preinstalled Windows (what I used then), the first thing I
> done was formatting C: and installing it myself. Now I use dual-boot W98,
> and Linux Mandrake. If I bought a PC with this dual boot, I'd still run
> Partition Magic and wipe it all, to install myself. I don't love when
> something is preinstalled. As a PC expert, I want to install everything
> myself - even if this is something I never installed. Yes, I did feel unsure
> installing Windows for the first time, as I also did installing Linux and
> BeOS for the first time. It all passes.
> Solver
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Rules Address for MDK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Romanator"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 3:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
> 
> > If we all pipe up and say something, microsoft will probably come to all
> our
> > houses to check for copies of illegal software...
> >
> > like that old 386 with win3.1 that your little sister plays with...
> >
> > they know they are gonna lose eventually, how can you beat something that
> is
> > not only better, but free?, they are just gonna drag it out as long as
> > possible by making it seem that linux is not a widespread well used
> solution
> > like NT/2000 and the newbies who know no better will buy it for a while
> > too... for a while..
> >
> >
> > The fact that all computer mags now have big sections on linux should be
> an
> > indication of that...
> >
> >
> > its a delaying tactic is all...
> >
> > don't waste your breath on them, ,they are not worth it..
> >
> >
> > rgds
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Romanator
> > Sent: Friday, 15 June 2001 6:44 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
> >
> >
> > I bet Microsoft provided a lotta software as a "gift" for writing these
> > articles. There will be more to come. Many times the writers must ship
> > the drafts to Microsoft for approval before it goes to print. However, I
> > wouldn't get alarmed. They are blowing a lot of hot air.
> >
> > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > >
> > > There have been many rebuttals published to this article all over the
> > > Internet: aboutlinux.com, linuxtoday.com, lwn.net, and even ZDNet
> > > itself. Gartner Dataquest's figures (sponsored by Microsoft) are in
> > > direct contrast to those made by other research companies. IDC, for
> > > example, gives GNU/Linux a share of about 24%. IDC and others
> > > recognise that most GNU/Linux installations are not bought
> > > shrink-wrapped like proprietary OSs are, and that a single copy can be
> > > used on an unlimited number of computers.
> > >
> > > Also, many vendors don't give the option of buying a computer without
> > > Windows. People are forced to pay for Windows licenses, but when they
> > > get their computers they wipe the hard drive and install GNU/Linux. As
> > > the computer is not purchased with GNU/Linux initially installed, it
> > > is counted as a Windows machine.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > A story from www.theregister.co.uk:
> > > >
> > > > (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19662.html)
> > > >
> > > >           No one's using Linux, claims Microsoft
> > > >                     By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
> > > >                     Posted: 13/06/2001 at 11:21 GMT
> > > >
> > > >                     Gartner Dataquest has pegged the proportion of
> > > > Linux servers shipped in the United States at 8.6 per cent.
> > > >
> > > >                     Gartner analyst Jeffery Hewitt claims that this
> > > > figure - which includes 'white box' shipments, but excludes server
> > > > appliances such as Sun's Cobalt range - is dramatically lower than
> > > > the 20 per cent plus cited by arch rivals IDC. Of that 8.6 per cent,
> > > > eight per cent is attributed to Red Hat and 0.6 per cent to other
> > > > distros.
> > > >
> > > >                     The survey is dated May 30, but was made public
> > > > yesterday.
> > > >
> > > >                     We don't usually hear about analyst surveys from
> > > > vendors in advance of publication. But yesterday a note dropped in
> > > > from Microsoft's PR company, Waggener Edstrom.
> > > >
> > > >                     "8.6 per cent is... certainly in line with what
> > > > we are hearing from our customers and partners," wrote a friendly
> > > > Wagg-Ed flak.
> > > >
> > > >                     Now there's some dispute over what a 'shipment'
> > > > actually involves, as NewsForge's Rob 'roblimo' Miller points out in
> > > > this analysis. And he has a very good point: for example, Gartner
> > > > pegs Linux shipments in the supercomputer space as 'zero' this year.
> > > > In fact Linux is well established on commodity parallel clusters at
> > > > many scientific sites. Many of these were assembled in-house, so a
> > > > shipment clearly doesn't correlate to a working installation.
> > > >
> > > >                     However, Microsoft's pre-emptive strike may be
> > > > tactical. Hewitt actually predicts that volume shipments of Linux -
> > > > even using Gartner's contested definition of 'shipment' and 'server'
> > > > - will mushroom in the next four years.
> > > >
> > > >                     Total worldwide Linux deployment will quadruple
> > > > from 2.4 million to 9.1 million, predicts Gartner, with explosive
> > > > growth in the supercomputer area: up from that dubious 'zero' this
> > > > year to over 5000 by 2005. In the $25,000 to $100,000 range - the
> > > > low-end company workhorse - Linux shipments will increase ninefold.
> > > > In the sub-$5000 space, Linux will grow over six fold.
> > > >
> > > >                     So this may be a case of the Beast getting its
> > > > retaliation in first.
> > > >
> > > > Might be interesting to know :-)
> > > > Paul
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> > >         "There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
> > >         LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
> > >                 -- Jeremy S. Anderson
> >
> > --
> > Roman
> > Registered Linux User #179293
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