I agree. Next time I see this type of post, I am going to DELETE IT!

Franki wrote:
> 
> If we all pipe up and say something, microsoft will probably come to all our
> houses to check for copies of illegal software...
> 
> like that old 386 with win3.1 that your little sister plays with...
> 
> they know they are gonna lose eventually, how can you beat something that is
> not only better, but free?, they are just gonna drag it out as long as
> possible by making it seem that linux is not a widespread well used solution
> like NT/2000 and the newbies who know no better will buy it for a while
> too... for a while..
> 
> The fact that all computer mags now have big sections on linux should be an
> indication of that...
> 
> its a delaying tactic is all...
> 
> don't waste your breath on them, ,they are not worth it..
> 
> rgds
> 
> Frank
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Romanator
> Sent: Friday, 15 June 2001 6:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
> 
> I bet Microsoft provided a lotta software as a "gift" for writing these
> articles. There will be more to come. Many times the writers must ship
> the drafts to Microsoft for approval before it goes to print. However, I
> wouldn't get alarmed. They are blowing a lot of hot air.
> 
> Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> >
> > There have been many rebuttals published to this article all over the
> > Internet: aboutlinux.com, linuxtoday.com, lwn.net, and even ZDNet
> > itself. Gartner Dataquest's figures (sponsored by Microsoft) are in
> > direct contrast to those made by other research companies. IDC, for
> > example, gives GNU/Linux a share of about 24%. IDC and others
> > recognise that most GNU/Linux installations are not bought
> > shrink-wrapped like proprietary OSs are, and that a single copy can be
> > used on an unlimited number of computers.
> >
> > Also, many vendors don't give the option of buying a computer without
> > Windows. People are forced to pay for Windows licenses, but when they
> > get their computers they wipe the hard drive and install GNU/Linux. As
> > the computer is not purchased with GNU/Linux initially installed, it
> > is counted as a Windows machine.
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > A story from www.theregister.co.uk:
> > >
> > > (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19662.html)
> > >
> > >           No one's using Linux, claims Microsoft
> > >                     By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
> > >                     Posted: 13/06/2001 at 11:21 GMT
> > >
> > >                     Gartner Dataquest has pegged the proportion of
> > > Linux servers shipped in the United States at 8.6 per cent.
> > >
> > >                     Gartner analyst Jeffery Hewitt claims that this
> > > figure - which includes 'white box' shipments, but excludes server
> > > appliances such as Sun's Cobalt range - is dramatically lower than
> > > the 20 per cent plus cited by arch rivals IDC. Of that 8.6 per cent,
> > > eight per cent is attributed to Red Hat and 0.6 per cent to other
> > > distros.
> > >
> > >                     The survey is dated May 30, but was made public
> > > yesterday.
> > >
> > >                     We don't usually hear about analyst surveys from
> > > vendors in advance of publication. But yesterday a note dropped in
> > > from Microsoft's PR company, Waggener Edstrom.
> > >
> > >                     "8.6 per cent is... certainly in line with what
> > > we are hearing from our customers and partners," wrote a friendly
> > > Wagg-Ed flak.
> > >
> > >                     Now there's some dispute over what a 'shipment'
> > > actually involves, as NewsForge's Rob 'roblimo' Miller points out in
> > > this analysis. And he has a very good point: for example, Gartner
> > > pegs Linux shipments in the supercomputer space as 'zero' this year.
> > > In fact Linux is well established on commodity parallel clusters at
> > > many scientific sites. Many of these were assembled in-house, so a
> > > shipment clearly doesn't correlate to a working installation.
> > >
> > >                     However, Microsoft's pre-emptive strike may be
> > > tactical. Hewitt actually predicts that volume shipments of Linux -
> > > even using Gartner's contested definition of 'shipment' and 'server'
> > > - will mushroom in the next four years.
> > >
> > >                     Total worldwide Linux deployment will quadruple
> > > from 2.4 million to 9.1 million, predicts Gartner, with explosive
> > > growth in the supercomputer area: up from that dubious 'zero' this
> > > year to over 5000 by 2005. In the $25,000 to $100,000 range - the
> > > low-end company workhorse - Linux shipments will increase ninefold.
> > > In the sub-$5000 space, Linux will grow over six fold.
> > >
> > >                     So this may be a case of the Beast getting its
> > > retaliation in first.
> > >
> > > Might be interesting to know :-)
> > > Paul
> >
> > --
> > Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> >         "There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
> >         LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
> >                 -- Jeremy S. Anderson
> 
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