Title: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
yeah, I agree,,,
 
I hate microsoft as much as the next guy, probably more,  but I have to write perl scripts that work and are tested in windows and linux, so I have to have a windows box..
I also have a winmodem in my notebook that I need when out of town.
 
so I loaded win2000 pro, then loaded all patches an service packs, then turned off all the dangerous stuff in outlook and IE...
then loaded pccillin and innoculate PE  (which is a free antivirus for windows), then I downloaded the FREE Tiny firewall package, which is regarded as being the
best firewall package for windows workstations..
 
AND,
 
This thing sits behind a linux masq box with a very tight firewall  (BASICALLY NO SERVICES OPEN. AND NO ICMP) and it also retrieves its mail from another linux box running postfix that scans all incoming and outgoing mail for
virus's, and doesn't let them though... (using amavis and the free Trend filescan.)
 
 
So I don't know, I am fairly confident that I am not presently hackable...
 
GRC reports me as being entirely invisable... so its at least fairly hard to do. which is more then anyone can ask nowdays.
 
When I have no reason to use winblows, then I won't,,, but right now thats not an option..
 
even if windows does suck, and we all know it does,, I have secured it as much as possible and IT IS sitting behind a linux firewall and MASQ ,,,
 
I think it is pretty safe.. and I don't think I am fooling myself.
 
Tell me how my security is Lax ???
 
 
rgds
 
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harrison, Neil
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:39 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.

You are a very angry, bitter man.

See "y'all" later

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.


On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote:

> you might want to check your system Frank...
> Franki

   You need to check your system Franki since you sent with:

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   WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other
Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even
fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all
propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up.

   I dunno how to convince y'all   NEVER connect to the Net with, any
M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system.
(period).  You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective
firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing you've
accomplished is to fool yourself.

   If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with
connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line.  Then you've got some
security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows virus
on it.  Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect.

  It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), believe
that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable idea.
Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this list
are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post these
warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and
newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis  ... mostly you'll
be weeks, even months and years behind

 Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to
connect.

  ... there ought'a be a law

--
      Tom Brinkman                 Galveston Bay, USA



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