On Tuesday 27 November 2001 04:23 am, Franki wrote:
> RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.yeah, I agree,,,
>
> I hate microsoft as much as the next guy, probably more,  but I
> have to write perl scripts that work and are tested in windows and
> linux, so I have to have a windows box..
> I also have a winmodem in my notebook that I need when out of town.
>
> so I loaded win2000 pro, then loaded all patches an service packs,
> then turned off all the dangerous stuff in outlook and IE...
> then loaded pccillin and innoculate PE  (which is a free antivirus
> for windows), then I downloaded the FREE Tiny firewall package,
> which is regarded as being the
> best firewall package for windows workstations..

  http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5099447,00.html

   Franki, there's almost as many articles of this nature on the Net 
as there are constant reports of new security flaws in Windoze 
products.

-- 
������Tom Brinkman � �  � � �    � Galveston Bay, USA

>
> AND,
>
> This thing sits behind a linux masq box with a very tight firewall
> (BASICALLY NO SERVICES OPEN. AND NO ICMP) and it also retrieves its
> mail from another linux box running postfix that scans all incoming
> and outgoing mail for
> virus's, and doesn't let them though... (using amavis and the free
> Trend filescan.)
>
>
> So I don't know, I am fairly confident that I am not presently
> hackable...
>
> GRC reports me as being entirely invisable... so its at least
> fairly hard to do. which is more then anyone can ask nowdays.
>
> When I have no reason to use winblows, then I won't,,, but right
> now thats not an option..
>
> even if windows does suck, and we all know it does,, I have secured
> it as much as possible and IT IS sitting behind a linux firewall
> and MASQ ,,,
>
> I think it is pretty safe.. and I don't think I am fooling myself.
>
> Tell me how my security is Lax ???
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harrison, Neil
>   Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:39 AM
>   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>   Subject: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
>
>
>   You are a very angry, bitter man.
>
>   See "y'all" later
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
>
>   On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote:
>   > you might want to check your system Frank...
>   > Franki
>
>      You need to check your system Franki since you sent with:
>
>   X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
>   X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700
>   Importance: Normal
>
>      WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other
>   Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even
>   fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all
>   propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up.
>
>      I dunno how to convince y'all   NEVER connect to the Net with,
> any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system.
> (period).  You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective
> firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing
> you've accomplished is to fool yourself.
>
>      If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with
>   connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line.  Then you've got
> some security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows
> virus on it.  Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect.
>
>     It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time),
> believe that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable
> idea. Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this
> list are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post
> these warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users
> lists and newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis  ...
> mostly you'll be weeks, even months and years behind
>
>    Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to
>   connect.
>
>     ... there ought'a be a law
>
>   --
>         Tom Brinkman                 Galveston Bay, USA

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