Dang it, why do I rise to the bait this ol' curmudgeon keeps tossing? ;-) At 06:46 PM 12/19/01 -0500, you wrote: >On Wednesday 19 December 2001 18:07, you wrote: > > Well let's not get too flamin' high and mighty and make judgements about > > each others' intelligence, shall we?
>OK I agree, but why then did you do EXACTLY that? > > > An installer that destroys partitions without adequate warning, ESPECIALLY > > in "easy" mode, shows indefensibly bad programming from people who assume > > to know better. Learning is a process punctuated by mistakes as well as > > successes. I didn't judge anyone's intelligence, I just grumbled about their sloppy output. I've written plenty of code in my years, just not on Linux. >as you ASS-U-Me to know what others are thinking. I make no assumption, other than the one that the writers of the install routine had the intent to install Linux, not remove my existing OS. I believe that's a reasonable assumption. That is precisely why I (and I am apparently not alone) was disturbed by losing my partition table during the install process. We expect that arrogance (or at least lack of concern) from Redmond, we don't expect it from the Linux community. > > I shouldn't have to learn "spells and incantations" to be assured a safe > > passage through the unfriendly waters of new OS install, especially one > > that is trying to compete against the arrogance and poor quality we are > > accustomed to getting from Redmond. >could it be that YOU are assuming AGAIN? I have looked and looked for the >quote from Linus Torvaldes that says "linux is for _competing_ with Redmond >and Uncle Billy", and since it IS his kernel, I would expect him to be the >one that could make that decision >could it be that you are taking YOUR experiance, and imposing what you >"believe" to have learned, and deciding (without assistance as far as I can >tell) what the "truth" is? No, I'm not assuming AGAIN. Linus' intentions were not necessarily to compete to Redmond, but he gave Linux to the public domain, who have contributed more lines of code than he (as he intended). That challenge has been taken up by countless thousands, including you, from what I've seem come from your keyboard over the last month or so. The point is that I shouldn't need spells and incantations. >(reminds me of the three blind men and the >elephant, touching a part and deciding what kind of critter the elephant >really is, you know one has the trunk and decides an elephant is like a >snake, one has the leg and thinks an elephant is like a tree that moves, and >one has the side and thinks an elephant is like a wall.) And the Linux newbie who thinks it's Ed Tharp ;-> > > If you don't have any patience for us NEWBIES, then don't waste your > > precious time writing arrogant and spiteful retorts to those of us on this > > NEWBIE list who have, if not more knowledge and experience, then certainly > > a lot more humility and civility than you appear to have. > > >one might honestly question your "more humility and civility" and after all >_I_ am the most humble of all. <grin> Ha :-) You're a likeable old fellow - you may be curmudgeon, but you have a sense of humor. >there are none so blind as he who will not see, nor none so deaf as he who >will not hear So what are you saying, Ed? You and me should be the founder members of that club? You know, the one where our narrow waists and broad minds change places? >damn did that guy say "cast out the moat from thine own eye" again? huh? That's the second time I've heard you use that one. Do you mean moat? or mote? or that the joke? Ed, I don't want a pie fight with you. My polite and humble request to you is simply to please be patient with newbies, that's all. We don't know it all, that's why we come here. Don't confuse lack of knowledge with stupidity, and don't lambast us for our lack of knowledge, or our naive but hopeful expectations . Your payment is the chuckles and grins you get when we line up and fall on our faces once in a while. Julian. ============================= Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 ==============================
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