about the "taking or not taking on M$ " .. don't you think 
that all those people ( i.e. me ) that leave windows and use linux
are growing in number because of this kind of competition?

M$ has blown away every single competitor till now, using incredibly
agressive, unfair and probably illegal methods. they are scared,
of course, because linux does not depend on a single company and thus 
there is no clear enemy to crush. but playing Ghandi is not going
to help us, either. M$ is not giving away any territory, and if linux
is going to grow, it will be by taking it out of them.

and of course, much of this has to do with advertising and
media in general. M$ with their FUD stuff, linux with our "we are getting
so much better" stuff.

i'm not entirely sure i'm making myself clear, i guess i'm too sleepy
to think right .. :oP


> How is it better? Please name one thing I can't do in GIMP that you can
> in PShop, other than doing CMYK separations. Don't forget also to factor
> in that PhotoShop isn't free.
>
well, ... i could make a list of every single plug-in .. but it could take
years. i'm not saying gimp can't do this or that, it's just that PS's
got a plug for everithing and it just makes it easier........

*** stop ***

----------------- let's try not to make a Gimp Vs. PS here... i'll drop
this part of the discussion. it could be endless.


> > oh and one more thing.. yeah i know that very few OS's were designed
> > with multimedia in mind, but what i wanted to say is, linux was,
> > as far as i can see ( someone with more knowledge will correct me here if
> > needed ) built from the ground up to be a very stable and secure
> > system, and over the years of development all the other stuff, from
> > GUI installs to the Gimp and freeamp ... just grew afterwards. and this
> >  is not the case with windows, which is almost pure GUI ( wanna call it
> >  bloat? ok! let's call it that >:o)
>
> Well I don't get your point, before windoze there was DOS. <shrug>

my point is down here.
>
> > i think it was civileme that said something like " linux was not made
> > with sound system in mind and it uses very little bandwidth for
> > sound events "   well, this is exactly what i mean. i was just not
> > built that way. of course this will change, and i think it will be
> > soon enough.
>
> True, but the kernel can evolve. I find sound working just fine, but
> then I don't use bloated window managers like KDE that screw up more
> than they help out.

... after all, linux is about choice, huh?

>
> > at least that's the feeling i got.
> >
> > i like this kind of discussion very much. i find them educative :oP
> > please keep replying :o)
>
> <nod> However, I think I've had too much caffeine to-day, had a heavy
> workload to do, and well I think I over did it. It's 1:30am here, I have
> to work bright n early tomorrow and I can't sleep, 'casue I'm still on a
> caffeine induced bz. Excuse the rant. (:'>

ok, we can leave it for tomorrow ;oP  
( it's 04:30 AM here. )

Damian

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