On Monday 11 March 2002 02:48, you wrote:
> about the "taking or not taking on M$ " .. don't you think
> that all those people ( i.e. me ) that leave windows and use linux
> are growing in number because of this kind of competition?
>
> M$ has blown away every single competitor till now, using incredibly
> agressive, unfair and probably illegal methods. they are scared,
> of course, because linux does not depend on a single company and thus
> there is no clear enemy to crush. but playing Ghandi is not going
> to help us, either. M$ is not giving away any territory, and if linux
> is going to grow, it will be by taking it out of them.
I Dis-agree, the very best thing for GNU linux is MS lic. schemes, that is 
(and will be)  driving people and companies to GNU-Linux. without M$ driving 
businesses away, GNU-Linux would not have a prayer. (Linus said the very best 
thing he has going for him is that he is not Bill Gates)


>
> and of course, much of this has to do with advertising and
> media in general. M$ with their FUD stuff, linux with our "we are getting
> so much better" stuff.


> i'm not entirely sure i'm making myself clear, i guess i'm too sleepy
> to think right .. :oP
>
> > How is it better? Please name one thing I can't do in GIMP that you can
> > in PShop, other than doing CMYK separations. Don't forget also to factor
> > in that PhotoShop isn't free.
>
> well, ... i could make a list of every single plug-in .. but it could take
> years. i'm not saying gimp can't do this or that, it's just that PS's
> got a plug for everithing and it just makes it easier........
>
> *** stop ***
>
> ----------------- let's try not to make a Gimp Vs. PS here... i'll drop
> this part of the discussion. it could be endless.
>
> > > oh and one more thing.. yeah i know that very few OS's were designed
> > > with multimedia in mind, but what i wanted to say is, linux was,
> > > as far as i can see ( someone with more knowledge will correct me here
> > > if needed ) built from the ground up to be a very stable and secure
> > > system, and over the years of development all the other stuff, from GUI
> > > installs to the Gimp and freeamp ... just grew afterwards. and this is
> > > not the case with windows, which is almost pure GUI ( wanna call it
> > > bloat? ok! let's call it that >:o)
> >
> > Well I don't get your point, before windoze there was DOS. <shrug>
>
> my point is down here.
>
> > > i think it was civileme that said something like " linux was not made
> > > with sound system in mind and it uses very little bandwidth for
> > > sound events "   well, this is exactly what i mean. i was just not
> > > built that way. of course this will change, and i think it will be
> > > soon enough.
> >
> > True, but the kernel can evolve. I find sound working just fine, but
> > then I don't use bloated window managers like KDE that screw up more
> > than they help out.
>
> ... after all, linux is about choice, huh?
>
> > > at least that's the feeling i got.
> > >
> > > i like this kind of discussion very much. i find them educative :oP
> > > please keep replying :o)
> >
> > <nod> However, I think I've had too much caffeine to-day, had a heavy
> > workload to do, and well I think I over did it. It's 1:30am here, I have
> > to work bright n early tomorrow and I can't sleep, 'casue I'm still on a
> > caffeine induced bz. Excuse the rant. (:'>
>
> ok, we can leave it for tomorrow ;oP
> ( it's 04:30 AM here. )
>
> Damian

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