> 
> On Sunday 24 March 2002 04:28 pm, john rigby wrote:
> > Hi Damian,
> > A reasonable comment:
> > BUT if the people do not speak up - out of fear of reprisal - how is change
> > ever going to happen?

 i made my post as an answer to someone complaining about "people
 not being able to post because they are afraid of getting flamed. " or
 something like that. i absolutely agree with you, but my point is that
 no one with a genuine problem and looking for a solution is ever going
 to get flamed here. 

people looking for help should most certainly NOT be afraid to ask. 

i just think this is not the place for complainig, but for asking.


> > The Newbie list *IS* the only place to have reasonable discourse on the
> > product.
> > It is NOT supposed to be a Geekfest.

of course not. this is a newbie list after all.

> >
> > Maybe a good solution would be to have an internal code on Replies:
> > GEEK
> > USER
> > COMMUNITY  ( for community discussion)

well, not quite... geeks usually have better answers for newbie
questions. so i would mix "user" and "geek" together

> >
> > Then fanatics could avoid any challenge to their tiny world, Geeks could
> > talk unintelligbly away from the rest of us real Newbies :-) , Users could
> > get simple help on getting it to go usably and those good souls who like to
> > help, as distinct from those here to display their
> > arrogance/cleverness/oneupmanship, could dip into the anguish of the User
> > area and help real beginners who have never cooked anything except lunch.
> >
> > It could work you know, with a bit of  support.
> >
> > The Geeks have no idea how off-putting and terrifying the complex matters
> > typical on this list are! Users cannot even understand the questions, much
> > less the answers and for many it is the very first exposure outside the
> > MS/Apple GUI world.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John
> >




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