Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
> On January 17, 2006 12:59, Russ Kepler wrote:
> 
>>On Tuesday 17 January 2006 12:40 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I'm having no problems receiving mail from anyone, so I don't know
>>>why a mail to me would have bounced. Yet, I got kicked from the list.
>>
>>Well, really, you don't know that.  All you know is that no one is telling
>>you that they're having trouble getting mail to you.
> 
> 
> Not entirely true. For one, I would see that the messages I sent to the list 
> didn't show up. For another, I would see gaps in the threads from the missing 
> messages. For yet another, family & friends (and various vendors) who email 
> and got a bounce would contact me by another route to see what's happening.
> 
> In fact, I was kicked off immediately after sending a message to the list, 
> yet 
> the message came through to me fine.
> 
> Do you at least have a log of these bounces, so that when someone complains, 
> you can investigate and find out what might have gone wrong?
> 
> Bottom line is that Sympa, or your particular install of Sympa, is broken. 
> Everyone on the list agrees with that. That's why a mass migration to other 
> independent lists is in progress right now. Unless you fix it very soon now, 
> there won't be anyone left to kick off.
> 
Same old story - it is not Sympa's fault, it is the user's fault.
That way, the IS department has an excuse for not doing their jobs.
Maybe if they stopped making excuses, and actually looked into the
problem, it would get fixed. Then again, maybe not. Maybe with the
staff reductions after the mergers, they got rid of the people that
actually know what they were doing, and only the "brown nosers" are
left. It sure sounds that way.

Mikkel
-- 

  Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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