On Wednesday 21 November 2001 22:11, you wrote:
> Ferry,
>
> I feel all guilty now ... :) Thanks for your kind email. 

No problem, my fault as well :/

>The reason I'm
> running X on windows is because Windows is the standard desktop at my
> company, but
>
> 1) I do a lot of unix-related work hence it gives me more flexibility to
> swap and change as I please.
> 2)We also have a lot of unix software running here eg, Patrol (Systems
> Monitoring tool) and if you're using Windows 95 (just as an example) you
> won't be able to run a Patrol console on there, in which case, you have to
> export a unix view to your machine.
> 3) I have a dual boot machine at home with Mandrake on it, but I'm fed up
> with the hassle I have getting the internet to work on it(I have a
> winmodem) and also some multimedia stuff on the net will only work with
> Microsoft players... So I'm not a fan of Microsoft either but until WINE is
> a bit less buggy (I'm not paying for VMWARE) I'm forced to use Windows as
> my base OS and port unix stuff over to it, rather than vice versa.

That explains a lot :-)

> OK, back to the original problem with starting cygwin/xfree86 (on W2K) as a
> user (instead of admin)... I don't think it's a firewall problem 'cos I'm X
> is running on my local machine. As for the port problem, you only have to
> be root to open low port numbers .. but I'm not sure what port this is
> running on. (Thinking out aloud!) Erm.. the key here is probably to go back
> and read the cygwin manual to learn a bit more about how security is set up
> on cygwin running on W2k. I think the problem is with my environment.

I assume it will be on the same port as X on *nix which is 6000

> Oh well, look Ferry... I think I'm writing to the wrong user group here so
> don't worry about this problem anymore unless you've been converted to
> windows and decided to run X on it!! I've kind of put it on a back seat
> anyway 'cos I've got other work to get on with.

I don't know if it's the wrong list... This list is Xfree86 so I guess you're 
on the right one :-) I think it's just that there aren't a whole lot of 
people that use these kinds of setups so there probably just isn't a whole 
lot of experience with it around

> When I fix it though I'll be sure to let you know!! Thanks for trying to
> help me out, and sorry for the disagreements....

No problem. I was in a lousy mood myself sorry about that.


> Best Regards,
>
> JS.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "TD - Sales International Holland B.V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [Newbie]problems starting xfree as user logon
> >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:05:35 +0100
> >
> >On Wednesday 21 November 2001 16:38, you wrote:
> >
> >Hehe then I guess we both misunderstood... DOH. Personally I think it's
> >useless to run a GUI under a GUI, that you're running X on windows is your
> >choice, I just fail to see why you'd need a GUI while you already have on
> >that functions properly. And yea, I like linux a lot, but that doesn't
> > mean you need to :-) Microsoft has some nice products, they really do. I
> > just don't always like MS attitude towards it's customers and the way
> > they fix some probs but that doesn't mean the products are bad.
> >
> >Still would like to know why you wanna run X under windows.... FAIK
> >everything you can do under windows can be done under linux and vice versa
> >so
> >why consume those extra cycles?
> >
> >BTW, I'm no programmer :-) if you know the true meaning of hacker (not the
> >news paper one) you MIGHT call me one, but I don't program (yet atleast)
> >
> >Anyways is your problem solved or not? It appears to me it's some sort of
> >TCP/IP port problem thus firewall or perhaps you don't have the rights to
> >open ports, which would seem odd to me since you can't browse then either
> >unless they only allow some range of ports to be opened by any user.
> >
> >Sorry 'bout the attitude. The bucket just ran over and you got all of
> >it....
> >Perhaps next time I should collect all the emails of people that fill the
> >bucket and send it to them all <BEG>
> >
> >regards
> >
> >Btw my name is Ferry aka freaky....... TD stands for Technische Dienst
> >(technical service in dutch).. You are the first one actually calling me
> > td haha
> >
> > > TD,
> > >
> > > Sorry you took offence to my comments - I meant no offence, but the
> >
> >point
> >
> > > I'd like to make is, whilst you get tired of people like me as you
> > > say.. I'm just a bit fed up with some developers' snobby anti-Microsoft
> >
> >attitude
> >
> > > who assume that anyone who's doing something on Windows must be
> >
> >brainless.
> >
> > > I have more respect for those developers who are able to display a good
> > > all-round knowledge rather than those who limit themselves to Linux
> > > 'cos they think that makes them real programmers...
> > >
> > > From: "TD - Sales International Holland B.V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: [Newbie]problems starting xfree as user logon
> > > >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:10:38 +0100
> > > >
> > > >On Wednesday 21 November 2001 07:44, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Hmm interesting :-)
> > > >Not so familiar with NT/2000 here, any chance he doesn't have rights
> > > > to open
> > > >ports on the system? Perhaps they're firewalled or something
> > > >
> > > > > Cygwin does, though. bash runs in any POSIX-ish environment, and
> >
> >WinNT
> >
> > > > > counts.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: TD - Sales International Holland B.V.
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:59 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Newbie]problems starting xfree as user logon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 20 November 2001 07:39, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > if you say so :-) looks pretty useless to me anyways that doesn't
> > > >
> > > >explain
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > bash prompt :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > > XFree86 runs under Windows NT (which includes 2K and XP)... It's
> > > >
> > > >pretty
> > > >
> > > > > > weird to do so, I admit, but it does work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Frederik Meerwaldt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:55 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Newbie]problems starting xfree as user logon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Having problems getting XFree to start when logged onto W2K as
> > > > > > > a
> > > >
> > > >user
> > > >
> > > > > (as
> > > > >
> > > > > > > opposed to Administrator). The messages I'm getting are shown
> > > > > > > below. Could
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this please?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When logged onto W2K ????????????????????????????
> > > > > > What the hell has XFree86 to do with Windows?
> > > > > > Regarding your problem: Check your file permissions. Don't know
> > > > > > if the mentioned file (directory?) is the problem.
> > > > > > What happens if you change the owner to root?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings - Freddy
> > > > >
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