James Ewen wrote:
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Bob Maloney <[email protected]> wrote:

I also plan to load some GPS tracks I have. For instance the Nawahunta Fire
Road. I have tracks with time stamps. I presume I just input the GPX file
into the GPS TRACES screen and enter the tag data in comma delimited format.

Cool, looks like you have converting GPX traces to ways figured out.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/67076202

One thing that you should do, is to connect your Fire Road to the
existing road network. I assume anyway that there is a way to get from
US 6 to the fire road.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.31607&lon=-74.053039&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF
I just tried to connect the Fire Road to Route 6. Let's see how it turns out.

Not sure if the track makes it out to another road at the lake or not.
Can't tell from the photos.
Looking at old maps it appears that the Fire Road continues a little bit around the lake. However, I have not walked that and do not have a GPX file for it. Nowadays, I am confident that the Fire Road ends at te Menominee Trail which I have just input.
It looks like you manually traced in the road rather than
automatically converting the GPX trace to a way, as the way you
created deviates slightly from the GPX trace in some places.
I couldn't figure out how to automatically convert the GPX trace.
I was wondering if you drove the road or walked through the bush. On
the satellite photos, you can see the tire tracks in some places. The
GPS track that you captured deviates from the trail in the photo quite
a bit. If I traced the tire tracks in the photos, I would come up with
a track that deviates quite a bit from yours.
My track is from walking the road. The tire tracks you see may be from the Long Path which is north of the Fire Road and intercepts it just before Route 6. I guess officially the Fire Road does not reach Route 6 while the Long path does.


A question concerning standards for naming a road, hiking path, etc. The Nawahunta Fire Road is a woods road probably built in the 1930's. It is only open to park vehicles for emergencies. it is similar to the Baileytown Road which is north of it. Baileytown Road was once a the road to Baaileytown. The town no longer exists, the last townspeople left in the 1930.s when the Park got their land. This road is closed to everyone but the park employees. However, it is tagged as a "residential road" and to me it shows on the map as a road everyone can ride on. I believe that the data for it was probably automatically downloaded from the US CENSUS TIGER fileswhich are notoriously inaccurate. I believe the same taf should apply to the Fire Road and Baileytown Road. What should it be? I can change the Fire Road, who can/should change Baileytown and many other park roads?

Once more, thanks,
Bob M



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