Hello again,

Since I last posted I have been given access to the NetFlow archive  
from Maurizio in the format created by NFdump, correctly named and in  
5 minute sections rather than the 15 minute ones from Flowtools.  
Sadly when using ft2nfdump. it does not create 5 minute chunks,  
merely recreates the 15 minute long files in a format which NFdump  
can read.

Now using the new data I am able to add the old data to NFsen no  
problems, the RRD database is correctly created and graphs displayed.  
If I add multiple sources as I start NFsen for the first time, I can  
have multiple sources on one instance of NFsen, but if I try to add a  
new source later on it does not draw onto the graphs. I think this is  
due to the version of NFsen that the Holt-Winters modifications are  
built on and I can work around this, so everything seems okay for me  
now.

Thanks for your help,

Sara

On 6 Dec 2006, at 14:59, Maurizio Molina wrote:

> Peter Haag wrote:
>
>> Does this happen also with an unmodified ( e.g. no HW patched )  
>> nfsen?
>> I assume, the rebuild the the RRDs was not done correctly.
>
> Hi Peter,
> can the 5 vs. 15 minutes issue Sara mentions be the cause of troubles?
> I'm asking because the data she mentions are actually coming from us,
> and I've given them  in flow-tools format (files split in 15 minutes).
> Then, as she mentions, she used ft2ndump to transform them in nfdump
> format, but I don't know if this can produce files nicely split in 5
> mins as nfsen expects...
> Thanks,
> Maurizio
>
>>
>>     - Peter
>>
>> -------- Original Message  --------
>> From: Sara Bury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Nfsen-discuss] Problems importing old data into nfsen
>> Date: Mon Dec 04 2006 18:35:27 GMT+0100 (CET)
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>
>>> I'm having some trouble importing old data into nfsen and I wondered
>>> if you might be able to give me any suggestions as to where I'm  
>>> going
>>> wrong.
>>
>>> I'm having to use the version of nfsen which was modified by Gabor
>>> Kiss to use the Holt Winters prediction information from rrdtool, so
>>> I am unable to upgrade easily. I have been given a lot of data in
>>> flowtools archive format, which I have been using ft2ndump to  
>>> convert
>>> into nfdump format and I have altered the file names such that they
>>> match the default output needed for nfsen.
>>
>>> First of all I was trying to add each lot of data as a new source in
>>> my running version of nfsen, but I understand that with the version
>>> Gabor used there are some issues with adding new sources.
>>> To get around that I have been creating a new instance of nfsen,
>>> importing the old data and rebuilding the profile to add the data
>>> before starting nfsen up. I have found that when I ask for the  
>>> status
>>> of my profile, it has picked up the correct start and end dates for
>>> the flows, and it appears to load properly, but when I come to look
>>> at the graphs all I can see is one small spike for one particular
>>> moment in time during the two week timeframe the data covers. When
>>> using the details tab to check what is going on, the statistics show
>>> as much as 441.2 flows /s, and using the netflow processing  
>>> section I
>>> can see all the flows for that time period as viewed using 'nfdump -
>>> r', but the graphs show no data at all.
>>
>>> After having read some mailing list posts, I am wondering if the
>>> problem is that the archived data I have is in 15 minute chunks
>>> rather than 5, and that this is causing nfsen issues in creating an
>>> updated rrd-database to allow data from before its initial creation
>>> date, would that make any sense? Or can anyone see anything else
>>> glaringly wrong with what I've been doing?
>>
>>> Any advice anyone could give would be *greatly* appreciated.
>>
>>> Sara
>>
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