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Hi Sara,

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From: Sara Bury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:[Nfsen-discuss] Problems importing old data into nfsen
Date: Mon Dec 11 2006 12:53:36 GMT+0100 (CET)

> Hello again,
> 
> Since I last posted I have been given access to the NetFlow archive  
> from Maurizio in the format created by NFdump, correctly named and in  
> 5 minute sections rather than the 15 minute ones from Flowtools.  
> Sadly when using ft2nfdump. it does not create 5 minute chunks,  
> merely recreates the 15 minute long files in a format which NFdump  
> can read.

As the name implies, ft2nfdump simply converts the file formats from flow tools 
to nfdump. There is no further processing, such as splitting into more files.

> 
> Now using the new data I am able to add the old data to NFsen no  
> problems, the RRD database is correctly created and graphs displayed.  
> If I add multiple sources as I start NFsen for the first time, I can  
> have multiple sources on one instance of NFsen, but if I try to add a  
> new source later on it does not draw onto the graphs. I think this is  
> due to the version of NFsen that the Holt-Winters modifications are  
> built on and I can work around this, so everything seems okay for me  
> now.

Adding/deleting netflow sources is only supported in nfsen-snapshots and not in 
stable 1.2.4. If yoou use the HW patched version, Gabor maybe could help you 
here.

Regards

        - Peter

> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Sara
> 
> On 6 Dec 2006, at 14:59, Maurizio Molina wrote:
> 
>> Peter Haag wrote:
>>
>>> Does this happen also with an unmodified ( e.g. no HW patched )  
>>> nfsen?
>>> I assume, the rebuild the the RRDs was not done correctly.
>> Hi Peter,
>> can the 5 vs. 15 minutes issue Sara mentions be the cause of troubles?
>> I'm asking because the data she mentions are actually coming from us,
>> and I've given them  in flow-tools format (files split in 15 minutes).
>> Then, as she mentions, she used ft2ndump to transform them in nfdump
>> format, but I don't know if this can produce files nicely split in 5
>> mins as nfsen expects...
>> Thanks,
>> Maurizio
>>
>>>     - Peter
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message  --------
>>> From: Sara Bury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [Nfsen-discuss] Problems importing old data into nfsen
>>> Date: Mon Dec 04 2006 18:35:27 GMT+0100 (CET)
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I'm having some trouble importing old data into nfsen and I wondered
>>>> if you might be able to give me any suggestions as to where I'm  
>>>> going
>>>> wrong.
>>>> I'm having to use the version of nfsen which was modified by Gabor
>>>> Kiss to use the Holt Winters prediction information from rrdtool, so
>>>> I am unable to upgrade easily. I have been given a lot of data in
>>>> flowtools archive format, which I have been using ft2ndump to  
>>>> convert
>>>> into nfdump format and I have altered the file names such that they
>>>> match the default output needed for nfsen.
>>>> First of all I was trying to add each lot of data as a new source in
>>>> my running version of nfsen, but I understand that with the version
>>>> Gabor used there are some issues with adding new sources.
>>>> To get around that I have been creating a new instance of nfsen,
>>>> importing the old data and rebuilding the profile to add the data
>>>> before starting nfsen up. I have found that when I ask for the  
>>>> status
>>>> of my profile, it has picked up the correct start and end dates for
>>>> the flows, and it appears to load properly, but when I come to look
>>>> at the graphs all I can see is one small spike for one particular
>>>> moment in time during the two week timeframe the data covers. When
>>>> using the details tab to check what is going on, the statistics show
>>>> as much as 441.2 flows /s, and using the netflow processing  
>>>> section I
>>>> can see all the flows for that time period as viewed using 'nfdump -
>>>> r', but the graphs show no data at all.
>>>> After having read some mailing list posts, I am wondering if the
>>>> problem is that the archived data I have is in 15 minute chunks
>>>> rather than 5, and that this is causing nfsen issues in creating an
>>>> updated rrd-database to allow data from before its initial creation
>>>> date, would that make any sense? Or can anyone see anything else
>>>> glaringly wrong with what I've been doing?
>>>> Any advice anyone could give would be *greatly* appreciated.
>>>> Sara
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