Hi Just to say that we are the team working with Ben on this and depending on what the best solution might be - we would be happy to send over a couple of our guys to a sprint in the Netherlands.
Cheers Zahid -- Dr Zahid Malik FRY-IT Limited 503 Enterprise House 1/2 Hatfields London SE1 9PG Tel: 0207 0968800 Fax: 0709 200 0450 Web: http://www.fry-it.com On Nov 21, 2007 1:32 PM, sisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Carsten Senger wrote: > > Hi Ben, > > > > Ben Rudder wrote: > > > A little off topic because we have no ressources to cosponser > > integration. But we, a very small umemployed ngo, had the same problems > > some time ago. I skimmed trough the sources of Mailman 2 and did some > > research about approaches to extend Mailman 2. Hacking Mailman 2 is > > undesireable and was out of question to us, so we opted for the manual > > approach. > > > > Our biggest win since then was migrating to Sympa. > > (http://www.sympa.org). It's a mailinglist server written in Perl. > > I'm glad someone else brought Sympa up! > > There have already been discussions about integrating Sympa with Plone, > as a replacement for listen (because indeed using the zope/ plone stack > to handle mailing lists for large lists and heavy traffic is not a good > idea). I don't want to go over the reasons why Sympa rather than mailman > cause that is covered by Carsten below. > > I did want to say though, that this is something Friends of the Earth > International and Friends of the Earth Netherlands desperatly need, and > I was planning on drumming up support for a sprint to get some > developers together to work on this in the new year. We can't offer > money but we can offer space and logistics for the sprint (in > amsterdam!) and I am hoping FoE Netherlands will be able to provide some > programming skills too. > > In the International office we are still using mailman, but I'd like to > migrate to Sympa for alot of reasons. No idea what the migration path is > like but perhaps that's something we could work on together if you find > Sympa interesting too (Carsten I'd appreciate any tips you have but it's > a bit off topic so maybe off list?) > > I believe the Sympa community have already been approached about > integration with Plone and were happy with it, but I might have that wrong. > > I'm open to the integration being with mailman if that is the majority > wish, and would be still like to help organise a sprint if so, but > perhaps we can discuss which mailing list software to integrate with > first and make a decision as a community? > > I think the plone community as a whole would back this, not just in the > NGO world, so maybe we need to move this discussion over to the third > party products list (but not till I've joined that list!!) :-) > > Cheers, > and thanks to Ben for bringing this up, I hope we can work together soon :-) > sisi > > > > If you do some research you should consider migrating to and integrating > > Sympa. And it would be a far more flexible solution for the community. > > > > We chose it because > > - it's mature and is constandly being developed > > - has a serverwide userdb > > - can authenticate against different sources (cas, shibboleth and ldap) > > - has an advances permission and rule system (authentication scenarios) > > - templates for different list types (List Families) > > - true virtual hosts were you can use the same listname in different > > hosts. > > - a SOAP interface > > - RSS-Feeds > > - good documentation > > > > cons for us where: > > - setup and integration into postfix with virtual domains can be a > > little tricker > > - flexible bounce-management (and in general more options) that we had > > to consider > > - UI could be more intuitive > > - perl > > - less known and a smaller userbase > > > > ..carsten > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NGO mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo > > -- > # sisi nutt # extranet coordinator > # Friends of the Earth International > # PO Box 19199 # 1000 GD Amsterdam # The Netherlands > # Tel 31 20 6221369 # Fax 31 20 6392181 # http://www.foei.org > # email [EMAIL PROTECTED] # skype foei_sisi > > > _______________________________________________ > NGO mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo > _______________________________________________ NGO mailing list [email protected] http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo
