Hi Will, i like your effort to move the documentation to the Wiki, but
that have one problem, i can not be read the documentation offline. For
me that is a huge problem, because i often work at trains where i have
no Internet connection.

But i think i would be possible to create a little tool which reads the
documentation from wiki in the wiki syntax and generates a simple
webpage from it...or better a docbook file.

Steve

Will Shaver schrieb:
> The advantage of the wiki version is that people will actually edit and
> improve it. To prove my point, a few sentences from:
> http://www.nhforge.org/doc/nh/en/index.html
> "Contrast this with the usual Java model where an unreferenced object is
> garbage collected."
> "This manual uses lowercase HQL keywords. Some users find queries with
> uppercase keywords more readable, but we find this convention ugly when
> embedded in Java code."
> "A Java class name embedded in the where clause will be translated to its
> discriminator value. "
> "The Hibernate code generator may be used to generate skeletal
> Javaimplementation classes from a
> Hibernate mapping file."
> 
> These docs were ported back in september 2005 we still have references to
> Java and Hibernate!
> 
> The docbook format is obviously not working as a living reference document!
> 
>    On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Fabio Maulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Yes was fixed but we need to upgrade to CS2008.5 final release and it mean
>> backup, upgrade etc.
>> For separate pages, if you want, you can use the Know version of the
>> doc-wiki.
>> There I separate each chapter:
>> http://knol.google.com/k/fabio-maulo/nhibernate/1nr4enxv3dpeq/21#
>> The disvantage to have only the wiki version is that it can't be converted
>> to something else than wiki.
>> With docBook you can create single-html, multi-html, PDF, chm and
> in theory
>> each page of the wiki too.
>> To edit the doc in docBook format we have a license of Oxygen to edit in
>> WYSIWYG way but... we must convert our documentation to DocBook5 format.
>> Perhaps Pierre and Tobes can give us some advise about which is the best
> doc
>> editor (they write NHiA in some format).
>>
>> 2008/10/1 Will Shaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Ok, yes it is there, but not in wiki format. The wiki formatted
>>> reference doesn't have many of the sections in the current
>>> docbook/static version.
>>>
>>> So basically what I'm hearing is that we need someone (probably me) to
>>> grab the most current docbook version and convert that to this wiki.
>>> At that point I'd recommend removing the docbook from the repo or
>>> freezing it etc. We can review the Hibernate version for ideas if
>>> needed, but keeping it online for easy editing seems more effective.
>>>
>>> Should I make one big "Page" or separate out each section into a
>>> separate "Page"?
>>>
>>> Still no fix on the revision history "revised by" bug?
>>>
>>>  -Will
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Fabio Maulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>>> 2008/10/1 Will Shaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Are we going to move the documentation here:
>>>>>
>>>>>
> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/nhibernate/1.2/reference/en/html_single/
>>>>> to nhforge.org?
>>>> http://www.nhforge.org/wikis/reference2-0en/preface.aspx click on Here
>>>> static reference  to go to
>>>> http://www.nhforge.org/doc/nh/en/index.html
>>>>
>>>>> Can we make a copy, label it 2.0, and go to town on it?
>>>> As you can see it was labeled as 2.0.
>>>>
>>>>> There are a
>>>>> number of things that need cleaning up / revising. I'm willing to work
>>>>> on them as I come across them...
>>>> The documentation was written using DocBook and it is part of the
>>>> branch/trunk.
>>>> You can find it in nhibernate\doc\reference\modules
>>>>
>>>>> Do we need someone to do the work of transferring this document into
>>>>> the nhforge wiki?
>>>> Puf..... sure. I start the work but it need long time
>>>> http://www.nhforge.org/wikis/reference2-0en/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>> In the right "Pages" is the table of content.
>>>>
>>>>> Is the verison in the trunk more up-to-date than the
>>>>> online one?
>>>> In trunk it is the same of that published in Knol and in NHforge wiki.
>>>>
>>>>> Should I do the work to copy it over?
>>>> Anything you have time to do with the documentation is welcome.
>>>> I'm not sure about what is better... do the work in DocBook and then
>>>> copy to
>>>> the wiki or directly to the wiki (each have pros/cons).
>>>> The wiki can be maintained actualized by everyone. Maintain the
> DocBook,
>>>> apparently, is not part of committers interests (facts speak by they
>>>> self).
>>>> In the trunk we need to add the doc of some available new features;
> some
>>>> one
>>>> can be copied from H3.2 doc but some others (for example all added in
>>>> Criteria API) are NH specific features.
>>>> --
>>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fabio Maulo
>>
> 

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