Regarding nhforge and google - you should probably remove the
index.htm in the root folder since google has that file instead of
default.aspx indexed. Another good option would be to generate a xml
sitemap (dynamic or static) and submit it to google, live and yahoo.

/Anders

On Feb 10, 12:56 pm, Stephen Bohlen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Michael:
>
> FWIW, I also think we very much appreciate YOUR input on this issue -- I
> agree that the apparent confusion introduced by having more than one 'ideal'
> or 'official-looking' clearing house for NH info is a challenge to the
> overall health of the project but as has been mentioned here, there is
> little (direct) action that can be taken to resolve this.
>
> Instead, by improving the content, structure, etc. of the NHForge content
> over time even the big G will stop considering nhibernate.org to be the top
> search result.  This isn't as direct a fix as either shutting down
> nhibernate.org or taking it over, but its the best possible course of action
> given the present constraints.
>
> We are all affected by the baggage we carry from our pasts :)
>
> -Steve B.
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Michael Teper 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >  +1  :)
>
> > No disagreement here, I don't think its "either/or" -- I am merely
> > suggesting *another* thing that would help, and I think would address a more
> > in-your-face issue for a newcomes (the apparent schism in the two websites).
> > In any case, all good worthwhile stuff.
>
> > Thank you!!
> > -Michael
>
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* [email protected] [
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Bohlen [
> > [email protected]]
> > *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2009 5:55 PM
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Subject:* [nhibernate-development] Re: NHForge - Pictures of you guys :)
>
> >    Tobin:
>
> > FWIW, I applaud your efforts.  OSS is built on the backs of volunteers --
> > people who give of themselves to contribute what they can where they can.
> > One of the very real challenges of OSS is that its often difficult to say to
> > any volunteer "I would prefer you volunteer your free time doing X instead
> > of Y".
>
> > I really think that ALL of these efforts -- coding, designing, testing,
> > documenting, teaching, and -- yes -- organizing content in NHForge too are
> > all needed around NHibernate in order to help keep its larger ecosystem
> > alive and healthy.  No one task is more important, more valuable, or more
> > needed than the others IMHO; instead they all contribute to the life of the
> > project.
>
> > I say this to any volunteer in just about any context: as long as you
> > aren't doing active HARM to anything, feel free to pick up a hammer, a saw,
> > a paint brush, an ink pen or whatever tools you like and offer up some value
> > to the project.  The essence of satisfaction as a volunteer is in pouring
> > your passion for action into a concrete result that others can
> > appreciate for what it is.  And whether thats a new feature, a closed bug, a
> > new article or blog post, or even an improved, more professional-looking
> > NHForge that helps to increase the sense of professionalism visitors
> > perceive around the participants in the project, I say: have at it -- all
> > comers are equally welcome because all contributions are equally valued~!
>
> > -Steve B.
>
> > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Tobes <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >> > My main point is that I think this is a far bigger barrier to adoption
> >> than lack of personability of the NH dev team.
> >> > -Michael
>
> >> Putting photos + bios on the home page will help win trust with new
> >> visitors. It gives the message that NHibernate is a team of seasoned
> >> developers, not some rabble of spurious open source hackers (decision
> >> makers often fear the worst!). By winning trust, it will also increase
> >> adoption. That's my thinking at least.
>
> >> The failing links, duplicate forums and stale content might be solved
> >> by creating gravity around the latest resources. Creating gravity
> >> means doing things that pull visitors back time and time again (google
> >> forum, nhforge.org etc).
>
> >> One thing we could do to give nhforge.org gravity would be to make the
> >> home page as official as possible. This would leave no room for
> >> confusion, so people know it's the place to come to. My hope is that
> >> putting developer faces on nhforge.org home page will help to make it
> >> more official, and therefore reduce the confusion, and ensure visitors
> >> keep coming back.
>
> >> Tobin

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