DefaultIfEmpty is probably top of the features that I'd like to get added. I suspect a naive approach won't be too hard, and will probably nail a large %age of use-cases. A full implementation will be, as suggested by Frans, a serious undertaking and I suspect isn't worth the effort. However, as an unpaid volunteer, I'm not going to commit to a date for even the naive implementation :) I will try my best though!
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps. > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:23 AM, pvginkel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> OK, this went a little bit off topic. Anyway, to get back to the >> subject, I was wondering whether you agree this is a crucial feature >> of the Linq provider. Maybe I'm missing the obvious, but I do not see >> a different way to get outer joins to work via Linq. I would offer to >> pick this up would it not be that the initial reply kind of scared me >> away :). >> >> In short, can we expect to get outer joins via Linq working in the GA? >> >> On Aug 19, 9:47 pm, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Ok. >> > >> > P.S. perhaps somebody will implements a fix... perhaps. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > about this " it ends up with you talking me down in some form or the >> > > other" >> > > > I don't know what you are talking about. >> > >> > > To help you, think REALLY HARD about the following: >> > > Why did you reply with 3 emails to my post, only replying on my first >> > > sentence, as if I would imply anything with it instead of exactly what >> I >> > > said. Why did you think that of me? >> > >> > > For the record, the only one who replied with any real info to >> the >> > > topicstarter was... who? I really don't know why you had to do this, I >> > > really don't. >> > >> > > FB >> > >> > > > For others matter: Ok. >> > >> > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > I saw that you tried to be helpful in the other part of your >> > > mail. >> > >> > > > I tried to be helpful in EVERY email here and on >> nhusers, >> > > and >> > > > I >> > > > didn't want to imply *anything* in the 1st sentence I wrote. >> WTF is >> > > > your >> > > > problem? >> > >> > > > > What we have notice is that there is a kind of "personal >> > > questions" >> > > > when >> > > > we >> > > > > are talking about our linq-provider and we don't have a >> > > > "personalized >> > > > > customer service" (at least not for free). >> > >> > > > I have no idea what you mean/refer to. >> > >> > > > > Steve is part of NH's team and the Linq provider is part of >> > > > NHibernate >> > > > core. >> > > > > As any other issue, even the issues related to linq-provider >> are >> > > > solved by >> > > > > the team. >> > >> > > > > Perhaps, with his silence, Steve and the team altogether are >> > > trying >> > > > to say >> > > > > the same. >> > >> > > > Sorry but I have no idea what you mean, but anyway, >> it's >> > > been >> > > > enough. Every f*cking time 'Linq' is mentioned and I reply in >> some >> > > > form or >> > > > another, it ends up with you talking me down in some form or >> the >> > > > other. I >> > > > just try to be helpful, but I don't need this kind of >> bickering. If >> > > > helping >> > > > out time after time ends up with some form of bickering, I >> won't >> > > > spend my >> > > > time on it anymore. Like I've said to Steve before, he can >> email me >> > > > any time >> > > > with questions about Linq and how to do things, but I won't >> reply >> > > to >> > > > linq >> > > > crap here again, as apparently you don't want my >> help/information >> > > > about how >> > > > to deal with linq expressions and what to expect. In case you >> don't >> > > > know, >> > > > mr. Maulo, that info is no-where to be found on the net nor in >> MS' >> > > > documentation. Only the small group on this planet who have >> dealt >> > > > with these >> > > > miserable issues before know what to expect and where a >> solution >> > > > 'might' be >> > > > found (as the only team who managed to get it all right is the >> Linq >> > > > to Sql >> > > > team (now abandoned) and they didn't publish any of their >> info). >> > >> > > > FB >> > >> > > > > P.S. I'm a "little bit" more loquacious in some cases >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Frans Bouma < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > I don't know if Steve's still reading this >> list, >> > >> > > > > > What do you mean ? >> > >> > > > > Well, I asked in some other linq thread a >> couple of >> > > > questions >> > > > > to >> > > > > Steve, gave info about how to do things, but never got >> a >> > > > reply (was >> > > > > in June >> > > > > or so), also all other linq related material is not >> > > answered >> > > > by him, >> > > > > so I >> > > > > wondered if he was still reading this list. I don't >> know >> > > how >> > > > else to >> > > > > interpret this remark, to be honest. >> > >> > > > > But that aside, sorry I tried to be helpful, >> mr. >> > > > Maulo. >> > >> > > > > FB >> > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Fabio Maulo >> > >> > > > -- >> > > > Fabio Maulo >> > >> > -- >> > Fabio Maulo >> > > > > -- > Fabio Maulo > >
