"When the issue is quite clear from the docs"

See, there ya go.  To me it wasn't clear, still isn't thus why I asked
the question.  There is a saying "You don't understand it until you
do."  This encompasses software development so perfectly.  Think of so
many developers who struggle with learning OOP, you struggle endlessly
until you reach that aha! moment then you don't understand why it was
so hard to understand.  You must have struggled with something along
those lines in your career, so maybe a little sympathy would go a good
distance.  If not, at least be empathetic because we are not all l337
programmers.

"As for the docs quality, are we talking on the same project? Did you
try to find docs for NServiceBus once?"

Are you serious?  I clearly stated that this is not saying anything
bad about NH as MOST OPEN SOURCE PROJECTS SUFFER THE SAME LACK OF
DOCUMENTATION.  I am not going to get in a "Oh yeah, well this one is
even worse...." argument as it would be fruitless.

"And using "pronto" in german means: DO IT RIGHT NOW AND CALL ME SIR!"

So, you didn't take the time to consider his name, his grammar, and
his usage of language to reach a fairly confident level of certainty
that he is American?  I don't know if he is American or not, but from
what I could tell I would assume he is.  Also, not knowing his origin
is even more reason to give leeway since words OBVIOUSLY
(capitalization intended) have different inferences in different
cultures and languages.

I really don't want this to turn into a pissing match.  I also don't
intend for any of you to consider me as attacking NH or you as an
individual.  I will tell you now that it is not my intention nor
desire to insult or call into question any of your abilities or
ethics.  I just feel it is important to keep a level of understanding
in the open source community that by its own nature of being free and
open to manipulation by developers you will be inviting all types and
skill levels to use the product and ask questions. Finally, giving
equal respect to all of those individuals will further the open source
initiatives everywhere and despite all of this I truly believe you all
want that otherwise you wouldn't be contributing to NH.


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Markus Zywitza<[email protected]> wrote:
> When the issue is quite clear from the docs, as it was the case in your
> question, why should he explain again? As for the docs quality, are we
> talking on the same project? Did you try to find docs for NServiceBus once?
>
> If you need a more gentle introduction than the doc reference, you can
> always by the Manning book. I had to go through the Manning Hibernate (Java)
> book, but even this shows how to solve common NH problems.
>
> And using "pronto" in german means: DO IT RIGHT NOW AND CALL ME SIR!
> (capitalization intended)
>
> 2009/7/16 Josh Rogers <[email protected]>
>>
>> Or he responds
>> to someone with one word answers or links to the NH reference manual
>> rather than explaining an issue as he has done with me, he is setting
>> a very negative tone for the entire project.  One of the main reasons
>> that NH has such a huge learning curve is that the documentation is
>> quite lacking in substance.
>
> >
>

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