Hi Ricardo

Excellent. Those are the databases that we were planning on adding
next anyway - and now your feedback has confirmed the choice.

Partial classes - good suggestion. We will try to put that in the next
build.

We will launch early next year. I can't be more specific than that at
this stage. It is important that we meet real-world requirements
first, and that is why beta-testers like yourself are so valuable.
Price will be similar to NH Prof... ;-)

Once again, thanks so much for your valuable input.

Cheers,
Gareth.

On Dec 3, 9:46 pm, Ricardo Peres <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello, Gareth!
>
> Well, for me, I would say Oracle goes next to SQL Server, and then
> MySQL. One thing I forgot is the option to generate classes as partial
> classes, this already happens with LINQ to SQL and Entity Framework,
> and it allows adding custom features to a class without worrying that
> they would become overwritten each time the model is updated from the
> DB.
> When are you expecting Visual NHibernate to become available, and at
> what cost?
>
> Regards,
> RP
>
> On Dec 2, 6:17 pm, Gareth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi cws
>
> > Thanks, great suggestion! We'll see what we can do...
>
> > Cheers,
> > Gareth.
>
> > On Dec 3, 2:32 am, cws <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi again!
>
> > > Nice!
> > > Another suggestion is that when doing reverse engineering it would be
> > > nice to be able to set default collection type and maybe default name
> > > of index column if you want to use idbags for many to many relations.
>
> > > On 2 Dec, 12:39, Ricardo Peres <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi, Gareth!
>
> > > > First of all, nice work! NHibernate is indeed in need of some
> > > > supporting tools; NHProf and Visual NHibernate are good examples of
> > > > such tools!
> > > > Some comments, however:
>
> > > > - Why aren't all properties virtual by default, or, at least, those
> > > > properties that represent relations to other entities? I also noticed
> > > > that they are indeed all created as virtual, despite what appears in
> > > > the editor;
> > > > - When generating a model from the DB, when representing a many-to-
> > > > many relationship, there is no need to map the middle table, unless,
> > > > of course, this table has extra attributes other than the mapping
> > > > keys, so why include it in the model?
> > > > - Why aren't other databases supported, other than Microsoft's? What
> > > > about SQL Server 2008? OK, I noticed that you can use SQL Server 2008
> > > > if you choose SQL Server 2005, but IMO it should be explicit, like,
> > > > "SQL Server 2005/2008";
> > > > - Classes should be marked with the Serializable attribute (or even
> > > > with WCF's DataContract and DataMember), it doesn't cause any harm,
> > > > and allows them to be serialized; perhaps it could be an option?
> > > > - No support for lazyness yet;
> > > > - No support for private setters for properties;
> > > > - No support (at least, I haven't found it) for setting id generator
> > > > type;
> > > > - No proper support for composite keys: instead of generating a
> > > > property for each key, perhaps it would be better to generate an inner
> > > > class that would wrap these properties, and present a single key
> > > > object, since all NHibernate's APIs expect a single object as a key.
>
> > > > Please note that all this is just my humble opinion! :-)
>
> > > > Keep up the good work!
>
> > > > RP
>
> > > > On Dec 2, 10:54 am, Gareth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Fabio, you'll be pleased to know that screenshots have now been added.
> > > > > Videos might take a bit longer ;-)
>
> > > > > See them here:http://www.slyce.com/VisualNHibernate/Screenshots/
>
> > > > > Gareth.
>
> > > > > On Dec 2, 4:35 pm, Gareth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > We have just uploaded a new build which you can grab 
> > > > > > here:http://www.slyce.com/downloads/
>
> > > > > > Diego, your bug has been fixed - thanks for reporting it.
>
> > > > > > cws, your suggestion has been implemented - thanks for suggesting 
> > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > There are a few other little fixes as well.
>
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Gareth.
>
> > > > > > On Dec 2, 6:45 am, Gareth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Oh yes it would....we'll see what we can do ;-)
>
> > > > > > > Gareth.
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 1, 11:39 pm, cws <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Nice tool!
>
> > > > > > > > Feeback:
>
> > > > > > > > In the reference edit pane, wouldn't it be nice to see which 
> > > > > > > > columns
> > > > > > > > the foreign-keys belongs to?
>
> > > > > > > > On 1 Dec, 10:56, Gareth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for reporting this Diego. We'll get a fix out asap.
>
> > > > > > > > > Gareth.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 10:46 pm, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Reverse engineering doesn't seem to work well... I tried to 
> > > > > > > > > > open my
> > > > > > > > > > "DataAccess" project (which contains the mappings and 
> > > > > > > > > > hibernate.cfg.xml) and
> > > > > > > > > > got:
> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > An Error Occurred
> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > Could not find the NHibernate *.cfg.xml in your project
> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
>
> > > > > > > > > >    Diego
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 23:40, Gareth 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > We have just released a new version of the Visual 
> > > > > > > > > > > NHibernate beta and
> > > > > > > > > > > are looking for some testers to provide feeedback. VNH 
> > > > > > > > > > > can reverse-
> > > > > > > > > > > engineer existing nHibernate projects, allowing you to 
> > > > > > > > > > > visualize your
> > > > > > > > > > > mappings etc. This new version also supports basic NH 
> > > > > > > > > > > Validator usage.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't yet have 100% coverage of the hbm schema, but 
> > > > > > > > > > > it will let
> > > > > > > > > > > report what elements it is not expecting. Please let us 
> > > > > > > > > > > know what
> > > > > > > > > > > we're currently missing, and how we can improve this tool 
> > > > > > > > > > > for you.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > We are tring to reduce the learning-curve for nHibernate 
> > > > > > > > > > > to enable
> > > > > > > > > > > more people to start using nHibernate in their projects.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > Gareth Hayter.
> > > > > > > > > > > Slyce Software.
>
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