That's the (possible) third step.
Second step is determining potential perfomance issues. For example, if your
query returns many different publishers, you might run   into a SELECT N+1
problem (one SELECT per Publisher after selecting the books).
There are several different solutions to that problem. As you mentioned, one
is join fetching:

select book
from Book book
join fetch book.Publisher publisher
join fetch publisher.Address address
...etc...

But there are other ways to optimize performance, like entity caching and
batch-fetching. It all depends on your domain and use cases.

By the way, this only applies to the Book entity query. The other one (where
I select the _fields_ I'm going to show) does not suffer from those problems
(it does suffer from different ones, more design related)

   Diego


On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:05, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

> Like I mentioned, the example I showed was a mocked up example.  I did
> not see any optimization of fetch modes in your example.  Is that
> handled automatically in a query such as that?
>
> On Jun 24, 7:14 am, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > But what you showed was not a complicated query.
> > With a correctly defined model, it would start like this:
> >
> >   session.CreateQuery("from Book").List<Book>();
> >
> > That is enough to get a list of books, with navigable relationships.
> >
> > If you'd rather retrieve only the needed fields from the DB for a grid,
> you
> > could do this:
> >
> >   session.CreateQuery(@"
> >     select
> >       ID,
> >       Name,
> >       Author.Name,
> >       Author.Address.State,
> >       Publisher.Name,
> >       Publisher.Address.State
> >     from Book
> >     ").List();
> >
> > You can use a transformer to create a DTO on the fly, but the query is
> just
> > that.
> >
> >    Diego
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 00:21, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I'm up to the last item in your list.  That's what I was specifically
> > > asking about.  I've used NHibernate for simple/intermediate queries
> > > but have yet to successfully construct a large query.
> >
> > > On Jun 23, 5:52 pm, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > The first problem there is "a Stored Proc that populates a grid".
> > > > You've got to change the way you look at this *radically* if you want
> to
> > > > take advantage of NHibernate.
> >
> > > > I'll give you some starting steps.
> > > > - Create a rich domain model that represents your entities and their
> > > > relationships (mapped as references, not Ids)
> > > > - Map your domain to the DB. You can use XML, Fluent or ConfORM,
> whatever
> > > > you like best
> > > > - Design your view, with the corresponding data bindings. You can
> take
> > > two
> > > > approaches here:
> > > >   - Pass the domain objects and bind to nested properties. For
> example,
> > > > Name, AuthorAddress.State, etc
> > > >   - Build DTOs/Presentation Models from your domain objects exposing
> just
> > > > what the grid needs. For example BookName, AuthorAddressState, etc.
> > > > - Build a simple query that retrieves the root objects. You can use
> HQL,
> > > > Criteria, Linq...
> > > > - Optimize your query and mappings using joining, batching and
> caching to
> > > > improve performance as needed
> >
> > > >    Diego
> >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 19:05, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I'm trying to figure out how to do complicated queries in
> NHibernate.
> > > > > I'm trying to refactor a Stored Proc that populates a grid to an
> > > > > NHibernate query, but I'm having problems because it joins a dozen
> > > > > tables.  I'm aware of setting FetchModes in NHibernate; however, it
> > > > > just seems like it's going to be difficult to recreate the results
> of
> > > > > this query in OO format instead of tabular format.  Here's an
> example
> > > > > query:
> >
> > > > > SELECT
> > > > >   Book.ID,
> > > > >   Book.Name,
> > > > >   Author.Name,
> > > > >   AuthorAddress.State,
> > > > >   Publisher.Name,
> > > > >   PublisherAddress.State
> > > > > FROM
> > > > >   Book
> > > > >      INNER JOIN Author ON (Author.ID = Book.AuthorID)
> > > > >      INNER JOIN Address AuthorAddress ON (AuthorAddress.ID =
> > > > > Author.AddressID)
> > > > >      INNER JOIN Publisher ON (Publisher.ID = Book.PublisherID)
> > > > >      INNER JOIN Address PublisherAddress ON (PublisherAddress.ID =
> > > > > Publisher.AddressID)
> >
> > > > > Now this is a mocked up example, but you can see the Joins go more
> > > > > than one level deep.  After I figure in dynamic sorting and paging,
> > > > > the Stored Proc yields the exact structure I want to show in my
> grid.
> > > > > I'm having problems replicating this with NHibernate.  Any advice
> out
> > > > > there?  Should I be taking a different approach?  I thought about
> > > > > keeping a stored procedure and loading it to a simple DTO for
> display
> > > > > in my grid, but there's domain logic I would love to include in the
> > > > > grid, and I'd hate to replicate it.
> >
> > > > > Thanks!
> >
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