Thanks for the message, but if I'm using NHibernate I'd like to
totally embrace the NHibernate way.  :-)

On Jun 28, 5:43 pm, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> and, btw, if you have an existing SQL (you said " I'm going from something I
> was efficient with (relational data)") you can your SQL in NH directly or
> with H-SQLhttp://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2009/09/nhibernate-queries.html
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Diego and John,
> > Thank you for your help.  I was able to recreate this query in
> > NHibernate and I think it's fairly optimized.  I think my original
> > problem was trying to do the query using Linq to NHibernate and was
> > having problems recreating conditions I was able to make work using
> > Criteria and HQL.
>
> > On Jun 28, 10:08 am, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > That's the (possible) third step.
> > > Second step is determining potential perfomance issues. For example, if
> > your
> > > query returns many different publishers, you might run   into a SELECT
> > N+1
> > > problem (one SELECT per Publisher after selecting the books).
> > > There are several different solutions to that problem. As you mentioned,
> > one
> > > is join fetching:
>
> > > select book
> > > from Book book
> > > join fetch book.Publisher publisher
> > > join fetch publisher.Address address
> > > ...etc...
>
> > > But there are other ways to optimize performance, like entity caching and
> > > batch-fetching. It all depends on your domain and use cases.
>
> > > By the way, this only applies to the Book entity query. The other one
> > (where
> > > I select the _fields_ I'm going to show) does not suffer from those
> > problems
> > > (it does suffer from different ones, more design related)
>
> > >    Diego
>
> > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:05, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Like I mentioned, the example I showed was a mocked up example.  I did
> > > > not see any optimization of fetch modes in your example.  Is that
> > > > handled automatically in a query such as that?
>
> > > > On Jun 24, 7:14 am, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > But what you showed was not a complicated query.
> > > > > With a correctly defined model, it would start like this:
>
> > > > >   session.CreateQuery("from Book").List<Book>();
>
> > > > > That is enough to get a list of books, with navigable relationships.
>
> > > > > If you'd rather retrieve only the needed fields from the DB for a
> > grid,
> > > > you
> > > > > could do this:
>
> > > > >   session.CreateQuery(@"
> > > > >     select
> > > > >       ID,
> > > > >       Name,
> > > > >       Author.Name,
> > > > >       Author.Address.State,
> > > > >       Publisher.Name,
> > > > >       Publisher.Address.State
> > > > >     from Book
> > > > >     ").List();
>
> > > > > You can use a transformer to create a DTO on the fly, but the query
> > is
> > > > just
> > > > > that.
>
> > > > >    Diego
>
> > > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 00:21, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > I'm up to the last item in your list.  That's what I was
> > specifically
> > > > > > asking about.  I've used NHibernate for simple/intermediate queries
> > > > > > but have yet to successfully construct a large query.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 23, 5:52 pm, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > The first problem there is "a Stored Proc that populates a grid".
> > > > > > > You've got to change the way you look at this *radically* if you
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > > > > take advantage of NHibernate.
>
> > > > > > > I'll give you some starting steps.
> > > > > > > - Create a rich domain model that represents your entities and
> > their
> > > > > > > relationships (mapped as references, not Ids)
> > > > > > > - Map your domain to the DB. You can use XML, Fluent or ConfORM,
> > > > whatever
> > > > > > > you like best
> > > > > > > - Design your view, with the corresponding data bindings. You can
> > > > take
> > > > > > two
> > > > > > > approaches here:
> > > > > > >   - Pass the domain objects and bind to nested properties. For
> > > > example,
> > > > > > > Name, AuthorAddress.State, etc
> > > > > > >   - Build DTOs/Presentation Models from your domain objects
> > exposing
> > > > just
> > > > > > > what the grid needs. For example BookName, AuthorAddressState,
> > etc.
> > > > > > > - Build a simple query that retrieves the root objects. You can
> > use
> > > > HQL,
> > > > > > > Criteria, Linq...
> > > > > > > - Optimize your query and mappings using joining, batching and
> > > > caching to
> > > > > > > improve performance as needed
>
> > > > > > >    Diego
>
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 19:05, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to figure out how to do complicated queries in
> > > > NHibernate.
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to refactor a Stored Proc that populates a grid to
> > an
> > > > > > > > NHibernate query, but I'm having problems because it joins a
> > dozen
> > > > > > > > tables.  I'm aware of setting FetchModes in NHibernate;
> > however, it
> > > > > > > > just seems like it's going to be difficult to recreate the
> > results
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > this query in OO format instead of tabular format.  Here's an
> > > > example
> > > > > > > > query:
>
> > > > > > > > SELECT
> > > > > > > >   Book.ID,
> > > > > > > >   Book.Name,
> > > > > > > >   Author.Name,
> > > > > > > >   AuthorAddress.State,
> > > > > > > >   Publisher.Name,
> > > > > > > >   PublisherAddress.State
> > > > > > > > FROM
> > > > > > > >   Book
> > > > > > > >      INNER JOIN Author ON (Author.ID = Book.AuthorID)
> > > > > > > >      INNER JOIN Address AuthorAddress ON (AuthorAddress.ID =
> > > > > > > > Author.AddressID)
> > > > > > > >      INNER JOIN Publisher ON (Publisher.ID = Book.PublisherID)
> > > > > > > >      INNER JOIN Address PublisherAddress ON
> > (PublisherAddress.ID =
> > > > > > > > Publisher.AddressID)
>
> > > > > > > > Now this is a mocked up example, but you can see the Joins go
> > more
> > > > > > > > than one level deep.  After I figure in dynamic sorting and
> > paging,
> > > > > > > > the Stored Proc yields the exact structure I want to show in my
> > > > grid.
> > > > > > > > I'm having problems replicating this with NHibernate.  Any
> > advice
> > > > out
> > > > > > > > there?  Should I be taking a different approach?  I thought
> > about
> > > > > > > > keeping a stored procedure and loading it to a simple DTO for
> > > > display
> > > > > > > > in my grid, but there's domain logic I would love to include in
> > the
> > > > > > > > grid, and I'd hate to replicate it.
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks!
>
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