Didn't post about the "smoke".  Don't know about the "smoke".  Come on, reveal 
the mystery!!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dennis Hammerl 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:17 PM
  Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: LED Bulbs


        Great analogy. You did post about the "smoke" didn't you ? Your 
presentation should be a permanent post.  

        --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Gene Henry <[email protected]> wrote:

          From: Gene Henry <[email protected]>
          Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] LED Bulbs
          To: [email protected]
          Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 3:53 PM


          LED bulbs do not need a voltage/current limiting device.  They are 
long-life because of their tolerance for voltage variances - they do not 
overheat and self destruct. They have a wide operating range - I have seen many 
that are rated at 9 to 14.5 volts.    Because of their reduced current draw 
many turn signal blinker relays will not operate with them as the relays 
require a certain level of current or energy flow.  

          Some pretty basic electrical terms, grossly simplified: (only for 
those that admit they need them.  Those that don't need not reply!  :~)
          When thinking about electricity, think of water.  Voltage is 
equivalent to (water) pressure.  More voltage/pressure will push more 
electricity/water through the same wire/hose.  Current/amperage is the amount 
of movement (electrons/gallons per minute) pushed through the circuit/hose.  
Reducing the size of the hose or increasing the resistance of the electrical 
circuit will reduce the flow of current/amps using the same voltage/pressure. 
          An electrical circuit is "circular" in nature, and requires a path 
from the source (battery/generator/electrical outlet) through controlling 
devices(switches/relays) through the operating device (starter 
motor/lights/horn) and back to the source.  On motorcycles/trucks/autos the 
metal parts of the engine/frame are often used as the return or "ground" part 
of the circuit.  Where this path is uncertain, "ground" wires are used.
          A "short" is when something occurs in the electrical circuit that 
allows the current to flow through a shorter path than intended.  Perhaps a 
bare wire or terminal touching when not intended.
          A "ground" is when the electrical circuit is allowed to "touch" or 
complete a circuit before going through the operating device (starter 
motor/lights/horn) which acts as current limiting devices.  With the current no 
longer limited, large amounts of electricity flows with often visually 
spectacular and destructive displays! (And results!)
          An "open" is where there is a break in the circuit, and the circular 
path cannot be completed.
          An "open" is never a "short", an "open" is never a "ground", and a 
"short" is never a "ground" (unless it is "shorted" to ground"!)
          Confusing enough?  Any questions, class???

          Gene

          ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Mark Hasslinger 
            To: [email protected] 
            Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:49 AM
            Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Electronic LED Flasher Blinker 
Relays


                  not sure about all this led stuff but from my reading if you 
don't use a relay to reduce the juice the led will be short lived.  can anyone 
add to this?  I want to go all led myself so I have more to use for other 
things and as we all know the power on the Nighthawks is minimal... 

                  --- On Tue, 4/28/09, [email protected] 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
                    Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Electronic LED Flasher Blinker 
Relays
                    To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
<[email protected]>
                    Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 8:19 AM


My flasher went bad so I ordered a enlectronic flasher for $20 and itworked 
with no mods. Just thought I'd pass along 
theinfo:.............http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm?gclid=CL_akND_9pkCFR1N5Qod0ivIwA
 


               

                


  

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