Good idea. I'm not sure where I'm going to find 8' tubes but I might have someone I can ask. The carpenter squares won't be hard to get ahold of.
-Kyle On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes. Don't kid yourself, these are very sensitive to minor changes in the > height of the caps above the top clamp. A movement of as small as 1/4" is > something you can feel. Now if you are an inch or so... Unless you have past > experience with both 650 and 700 you wouldn't know that they are quite > different. I love riding the 650's but the 700 has so much more stability, > esp at high speed. (very high) I can send along a graphic of the geometry of > a bike to show you what happens from a change like this. > Now somebody brought up a great point. Why did your bike wind up this way ? > Impact is my best guess. What I'm going to tell you, you don't have to do > but I certainly would if it was mine. It is possible to check the frame > quite easily. You need only four items to perform a critical check of > alignment. Two large carpenters squares (borrow them) and two 8' > florescent tubes (burnt out is fine) . The back tire is much wider than the > front one. SO, get someone to hold your bike in an upright position and you > hold the tubes against the back tire about 4" above the floor with the tubes > extending forward past the front wheel. The front tire should fit between > the tubes with an equal space on either side. (# tubes are straight within > about .003" and work great for this) Next, hold one square against the back > tire and the floor. Will the other one do the same in front ? Just a simple > two axis check for damage. Look under the fuel tank for paint flaking or > signs of repaint on the frame. > > --- On *Wed, 6/17/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What's wrong with this picture? > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > I'll have to measure them when I get home this weekend. According to your > previous message I'm measuring from the axle center to the endcaps of the > upper tubes correct? > > -Kyle > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Dennis Hammerl > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> Are they anywhere near the right length ? I'd leave 'em on if I could >> correct the angles and get the steering geometry correct. >> >> --- On *Wed, 6/17/09, Kyle Munz >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What's wrong with this picture? >> To: >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 8:59 AM >> >> Not having anything to compare it to is one thing, but so far it rides >> just fine. The forks are also in perfect condition and I'm sure any 2nd hand >> 700 forks I might buy wouldn't be. I might take it around to the different >> salvage yards in Houston and see if any are interested in a trade possibly. >> Its funny how the sidestand's misbehavior is what clued me in to this rather >> than the fact that the tubes are the wrong color. >> >> -Kyle >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Dennis Hammerl >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >>> I saw the turn signals and completely missed the forks. Yes, they are >>> 650 parts. AND, too short since the 650 has a larger front wheel. (18 v 16) >>> Now, it should handle oddly, but you wouldn't know because it's the first >>> one you rode. Slide the tubes down flush with the top clamp. Let's see, >>> change to a 650 front wheel ? (wouldn't match the back) Get 700 fork tubes ? >>> Maybe. A whole 700s fork assy ? Large William >>> At any rate, you're an inch short. (I've heard that one too) or more (?) >>> The original un-loaded fork length is 33 3/4" from cap mating surface to >>> axle center. Compound that with an inch less wheel diameter. Should make for >>> light steering at the expense of high-speed stability. >>> >>> --- On *Tue, 6/16/09, Kyle Munz >>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >>> >* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What's wrong with this picture? >>> To: >>> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 4:08 PM >>> >>> >>> The question is this... the bike rides just fine and the forks are in >>> great condition so I'm not in any hurry to change them. The only problem is >>> the kickstand, so do I try and heat it/bend it or can I just slide the forks >>> down more or should I really just keep an eye out for some 700 forks? >>> >>> -Kyle >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM, NytWing >>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> You might be right... The lower part of the forks in the pics on >>>> Paul's site are black. >>>> >>>> On Jun 16, 3:02 pm, Kyle Munz >>>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Ok, make-believe cookies for everyone. If you take a look at the pics >>>> on >>>> > Paul's site (http://hondanighthawks.net/yourhawk1.htm) you can see >>>> the >>>> > difference. I believe I may have the forks from a 650 on my bike. The >>>> > problem is that the side-stand doesn't work so well because the bike >>>> doesn't >>>> > lean over far enough. On a flat surface it's ok, but if it's parked >>>> the >>>> > wrong way on the slightest incline it wants to fall over on the other >>>> side. >>>> > I'm thinking the 650 forks lowered the bike maybe? >>>> > >>>> > -Kyle >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM, NytWing >>>> > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > The only other thing I see is maybe some sort of collar or brace >>>> > > towards the top of the fork by the bikini fairing.... >>>> > >>>> > > On Jun 16, 2:41 pm, Kyle Munz >>>> > > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > > You guys are really very close. The problem is definitely with the >>>> forks, >>>> > > > and the fact that its silver. >>>> > >>>> > > > -Kyle >>>> > >>>> > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM, NytWing >>>> > > > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > > > Is it the silver thing just above the caliper on the lower part >>>> of the >>>> > > > > fork???? >>>> > >>>> > > > > What is it????? >>>> > >>>> > > > > On Jun 16, 2:10 pm, Kyle Munz >>>> > > > > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > > > > Free make-believe cookie to whoever can name the out of place >>>> part in >>>> > > > > this >>>> > > > > > picture. I don't know why I didn't notice it when I bought it, >>>> It's >>>> > > kind >>>> > > > > of >>>> > > > > > obvious. I finally noticed it the week later, but it rides >>>> nice so I >>>> > > > > didn't >>>> > > > > > care. Now I think it might be an issue...so any takers? >>>> > >>>> > > > > > [image: >>>> > > > > >>>> http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/img_15.. >>>> > > .] >>>> > >>>> > > > > > -Kyle- Hide quoted text - >>>> > >>>> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>> > >>>> > - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
