+1 on wearing gear. I've been down a grand total of 4 times. I was wearing
leathers, helmet, etc and I had (quite literally) two scratches on me.
Quality gear will save your skin and it's not too hot in the summer.
I'm also a big fan of bike + Taco. Bike for summer, truck for hauling stuff,
and winter/snow (gotta love the UP!)

-Kyle

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Aldo <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Just stating what I have observed do with that what you will. Some say
> loud pipes save lives some say it’s a myth… I say build it/ride it how you
> like it.
>
>
>
> I had a 2004 BMW 545i which I gladly sold when I bought my Taco and while I
> was driving on the freeway for the most part I could still hear other
> vehicles especially if they had aftermarket exhaust. I would say the car
> itself was built to give a quiet ride (no road noise) among other things… I
> got that car because it was a road tearing beast and at the time I had money
> to burn and regret later! It had wicked handling and was very quick but
> didn’t work for me. What suits me best is my bike(s) and a pick-up.
>
>
>
> Stanley,
>
> I have been riding since 1997. Experience probably helped more than I think
> but I feel like I just lucked out. The bike that I was on (CB750 stability)
> and the way she hit me. If I were on a faired bike she would have likely
> sent me in a different direction on impact possibly into another vehicle or
> into the center divider… If I were on a bike with a short wheelbase I
> probably would have lost it on the wobbles or the bike could have inverted
> when the front wheel locked up for a moment…
>
>
>
> I have always been a careful rider but s#$% happens at random. Some people
> never crash and some multiple times. When people crash it is usually rider
> error. When it isn’t, just hope it isn’t your time and you have proper gear.
> Maybe I am heartless but I don’t feel sorry for the people who get hurt
> without wearing proper gear. Ride safe!
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mark Hasslinger
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 27, 2009 3:36 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Loud V&H exhaust: options?
>
>
>
> shiny new BMW's are sealed off from the outside noise to such an extent you
> lound pipes will penatrate the sound barriers built into the car.  That's
> why ppl buys these cars, for the quite, ask the John Power's  Design
> Institue.  The ability to keep the outside noise OUT is one of the top three
> priorities ppl want in their cars.  YOUR WRONG AGAIN. you'll only piss off
> your neighbors.
>
>
>
> Oh ya!  I'm very familiar with the streets and freeways in L.A. and all of
> Calif., lived there half of my adult life. Still have a home there in Holmby
> Hills.  You drive in my neighborhood with lound pipes and you'll get a
> ticket.
>
> --- On *Sat, 6/27/09, Aldo <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Aldo <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Loud V&H exhaust: options?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 2:18 AM
>
> I disagree, here in Los Angeles (and probably other big congested cities)
> it helps to be making some noise particularly on the freeway. I had stock
> pipes on my CB750 and they were very quiet (probably the quietist bike I
> have ever owned) which is nice but… I found myself dodging cars left and
> right on the freeway… At least in my town people always drive like they are
> in a hurry on their cell phones and don’t seem to pay much attention to what
> is behind or next to them unless it is loud has strobes, siren or an air
> horn.
>
>
>
> I actually got hit by a lady on the 405 freeway coming back from the bike’s
> photo shoot for Verizon. The lady didn’t see or hear me as I was passing
> along side of her (so she says) and she turned right into me at about 65
> mph. The first thing that hit her car was the mirror and brake lever which
> came back with enough force to bruise my fingers and the impact on the
> handlebar turned the wheel and the bike lunged up the side of her shiny new
> BMW.  The front than bounced off of her car and I had some brief wobbles but
> thanks to the long wheelbase was able to hold on and slow down for impact
> number 2 which luckily by that time was only at about 15 mph and though I am
> not quite sure I think my fingers got smashed for a second time and I almost
> dropped the bike but was able to lift it with my crazy adrenaline. Maybe I
> am warped but in the moment aside from OH #$%* I remember thinking at least
> the bike made it to a photo shoot!!!! Shouldn’t my life have been flashing
> before my eyes???  The damage was minimal to my baby… just bent the mirror,
> handlebar and scuffed the fork. I bent the mirror back on the spot and had
> the lady buy me a new set of handlebars. I let the scuff slide just because
> you could hardly notice it and it’s a battle scar. Her car had a bike print
> in the side. J
>
>
>
> That was in January and after that I installed a V&H 4into1 for performance
> and most people seem to be aware of me on the road now… I try to stay where
> they can see me but when I need to make a pass they can hear me buzzing
> which makes them a bit more cautious I’d say. When I get home I just keep it
> low and slow and I never get any complaints from the neighborhood.
>
>
>
> The bike is looking pretty as ever just got back from a lovely ride as a
> matter of fact.
>
>
>
> Peace & grease! ~Aldo
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected] ] *On Behalf Of *Mark Hasslinger
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 10:33 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Loud V&H exhaust: options?
>
>
>
> Wrong! no amount of noise is any deterant to unsafe drivers.  the noise
> only serves to upset the general population and will result in laws against
> anything but stock mufflers. the pressure is mounting in all the small towns
> i ride thru, many have now posted signs at the outskirts of town cautioning
> against said noise.  your only working against your interest by having loud
> exhaust.  better get yourself educated!
>
> --- On *Fri, 6/26/09, MrViggy <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: MrViggy <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Loud V&H exhaust: options?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 10:25 AM
>
> I would think that a noise canceling headset would be dangerous in it's own
> right.  It would be much harder to hear sirens on emergency vehicles.
>
> Viggy
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:17 AM, stanley/ Randolph 
> <*[email protected]*<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> A certain amount of noise from the exhaust is a safety thing.  People may
> not see you, but they certainly hear you and that is a good thing, as they
> will tend to be more respectful of the noise than a light or the actual
> machine.
>
> I don't care for noisy exhaust, but on a bike, the helmet can reduce it
> enough; if not, it may be too loud, or not.   Maybe add extra padding; or
> a noise canceling headset?
>
>
> *Stanley*
>
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Marco 
> <*[email protected]*<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> >
>
> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
> <*[email protected]*<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> >
>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 6:50:30 AM
>
>
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Loud V&H exhaust: options?
>
>
>
>
> As I recall the safety thing is an urban legend at best, a total non-
> starter at worst. After all, sound is directional; alerting the people
> (and deer) that you've already passed to your presence is not exactly
> useful. The horn's mounted on the front for a reason :)
>
> I see deer around me all the time; they aren't spooked by my un-
> baffled exhaust. They are only sometimes spooked by flashing high
> beams. The horn is only slightly more effective. Literally, the little
> bastards just stand in the middle of the street. Presumably the deer
> population survival strategy is to breed like mad and accept high road
> losses.
>
> "Like the sound" is entirely different. I like to hear that my
> engine's running smoothly, too. (After all, it's a contrast to all the
> H-D's around which have that "slightly out of tune" note - sharp-flat
> sharp-flat sharp-flat). We all make a deal with the devil with respect
> to how loud, how early, and how often.
>
> Anyhow, I was talking to an online retailer who found some replacement
> V&H megaphone baffles for me; I'm going to order two, see if they fit
> in my stock exhaust, and if not simply replace the single one on my
> V& H street megaphone. Will report back with the results.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Marco
>
> On Jun 25, 6:16 pm, Music and Nighthawk Nut 
> <*[email protected]*<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toni.owen...@gmailcom>
> >
> wrote:
> > I tote a gun, but have never used the whistles. I just want loud
> > exhaust cause I like how it sounds and also so people can hear you
> > before they see you, kinda a safety thing.
>
>
>
>
>
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