Yep, cover and snorkel are installed as prescribed. No leaks and no air
getting in except through the K&N.

-Kyle
-Sent from Houston, TX, United States

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kyle, I guess this is already been covered - you are reinstalling the cover
> and snorkel on the filter right?
>
> On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:
>
> I finally got back to my yogurt cup tuning. I cut it down so that the large
> diameter of the yogurt cup was the same as the inside small diameter of the
> K&N cone. Now it sits on the bottom of the cone snug against the pleats and
> is about 3" below the opening of the cone. This really didn't make much
> difference though with the lean popping behavior. Slightly worse than it was
> with the full size cup, not quite as bad as just the straight K&N. So, since
> I want the K&N to work, I guess this leaves the carbs. Before checking the
> jet size, I'm wondering if it would be worth it to try quarter or eighth
> turn adjustments to these? The PO said they were rebuilt carbs so it's
> possible those aren't set right, especially since the limiter caps are all
> removed. My buddy has the tiny carburetor drill bits for checking the jet
> sizes. I'll see if I can't borrow those off of him.
>
> Pictures of the trimmed cup and mp3 of both the OEM airfilter and the K&N
> are on my blog. http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?p=295
>
> -Kyle
> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  That's the largest cup I've seen so far in one of those. !!  Mine is
>> about 2/3 that size and truncated. Now, you have to admit it works. The
>> remaining issue is still to be addressed. Get a small (stubby)  Phillips
>> screw driver and remove one of the outer float bowls (carbs on bike) and
>> check the main jet size. Actually check the slow jet size too. The OEM is
>> #115 and #35. What you are describing is happening during "transition" (from
>> all jets as a collective to main) As the revs climb above the trouble zone
>> and the air speed (that's what this is all about, remember?) increases
>> enough to atomize a lot of fuel, it goes good. I'm not there and have no
>> crystal ball, this is my best guess at this point. You have increased air
>> speed a ton and it does run better. Now you have to dig in. Even if the jet
>> sizes are correct, there is no reason to believe it. That's where sized
>> wires come in. I can supply you with the the wire sizes (and wires) to check
>> that they have / have not been reamed to some new size. your bike has been
>> altered which you cannot deny. Does it go deeper ? Let's see. When you get
>> it right, that gonzo cup might have to be replaced with a smaller one. From
>> what you say, you've made great progress with your problem. The last little
>> bit always takes the most work. You're gonna' get it right. Hang in there.
>>
>> Just a note, yogurt cups are for California models. 49 state models use
>> soft drink cups.
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 9/4/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] K&N filter saga continues.
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 10:41 PM
>>
>>
>> Ok, Per Dennis' advice I reduced the interior volume of my cone-shaped K&N
>> filter, and that definitely improved things but it's not quite perfect.
>> I couldn't locate a dixie cup (when you *need* one they're nowhere
>> around) so I went with an empty yogurt cup. Sorry, I don't know what flavor.
>> Anyhow, this took the bike from popping constantly and barely climbing above
>> 4grand to a bike that will actually start, idle, and rev.
>> It still is off just a tad. The exhaust sounds a bit more "hollow" that it
>> did before. Can't describe it better than that.
>> I've recorded an audio file of the exhaust popping and posted it on my
>> blog at http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?p=280 for anyone interested.
>> It starts at 2K, moves up the 3K, then to 4K where it starts to pop a bit,
>> and then starts to pop alot as I move up to 5K. After 5K it takes off like a
>> champ and definitely has more power in the higher revs than it did before,
>> but I want the lower RPM rideability I hear so much about ;) The end of the
>> audio file is a quick rev up to 8K with no popping, it's just trying to
>> sustain it between 4 and 5 that is kind of rough.
>>
>> So, do I keep tweaking my yogurt cups or is it time to monkey with the
>> jets? I really don't want to monkey with the jets :)
>> Also, all test rides were done with the lid and snorkel bolted in place.
>>
>> [image: K&N filter with yogurt cup 
>> modifier]<http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?attachment_id=281>
>>
>>
>> -Kyle
>> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
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