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On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:

> Yep, cover and snorkel are installed as prescribed. No leaks and no  
> air getting in except through the K&N.
>
> -Kyle
> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
> Kyle, I guess this is already been covered - you are reinstalling  
> the cover and snorkel on the filter right?
>
> On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:
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>> I finally got back to my yogurt cup tuning. I cut it down so that  
>> the large diameter of the yogurt cup was the same as the inside  
>> small diameter of the K&N cone. Now it sits on the bottom of the  
>> cone snug against the pleats and is about 3" below the opening of  
>> the cone. This really didn't make much difference though with the  
>> lean popping behavior. Slightly worse than it was with the full  
>> size cup, not quite as bad as just the straight K&N. So, since I  
>> want the K&N to work, I guess this leaves the carbs. Before  
>> checking the jet size, I'm wondering if it would be worth it to  
>> try quarter or eighth turn adjustments to these? The PO said they  
>> were rebuilt carbs so it's possible those aren't set right,  
>> especially since the limiter caps are all removed. My buddy has  
>> the tiny carburetor drill bits for checking the jet sizes. I'll  
>> see if I can't borrow those off of him.
>>
>> Pictures of the trimmed cup and mp3 of both the OEM airfilter and  
>> the K&N are on my blog. http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?p=295
>>
>> -Kyle
>> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>>
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>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Dennis Hammerl  
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's the largest cup I've seen so far in one of those. !!  Mine  
>> is about 2/3 that size and truncated. Now, you have to admit it  
>> works. The remaining issue is still to be addressed. Get a small  
>> (stubby)  Phillips screw driver and remove one of the outer float  
>> bowls (carbs on bike) and check the main jet size. Actually check  
>> the slow jet size too. The OEM is #115 and #35. What you are  
>> describing is happening during "transition" (from all jets as a  
>> collective to main) As the revs climb above the trouble zone and  
>> the air speed (that's what this is all about, remember?) increases  
>> enough to atomize a lot of fuel, it goes good. I'm not there and  
>> have no crystal ball, this is my best guess at this point. You  
>> have increased air speed a ton and it does run better. Now you  
>> have to dig in. Even if the jet sizes are correct, there is no  
>> reason to believe it. That's where sized wires come in. I can  
>> supply you with the the wire sizes (and wires) to check that they  
>> have / have not been reamed to some new size. your bike has been  
>> altered which you cannot deny. Does it go deeper ? Let's see. When  
>> you get it right, that gonzo cup might have to be replaced with a  
>> smaller one. From what you say, you've made great progress with  
>> your problem. The last little bit always takes the most work.  
>> You're gonna' get it right. Hang in there.
>>
>> Just a note, yogurt cups are for California models. 49 state  
>> models use soft drink cups.
>>
>> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] K&N filter saga continues.
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 10:41 PM
>>
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>> Ok, Per Dennis' advice I reduced the interior volume of my cone- 
>> shaped K&N filter, and that definitely improved things but it's  
>> not quite perfect.
>> I couldn't locate a dixie cup (when you need one they're nowhere  
>> around) so I went with an empty yogurt cup. Sorry, I don't know  
>> what flavor. Anyhow, this took the bike from popping constantly  
>> and barely climbing above 4grand to a bike that will actually  
>> start, idle, and rev.
>> It still is off just a tad. The exhaust sounds a bit more "hollow"  
>> that it did before. Can't describe it better than that.
>> I've recorded an audio file of the exhaust popping and posted it  
>> on my blog at http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?p=280 for  
>> anyone interested. It starts at 2K, moves up the 3K, then to 4K  
>> where it starts to pop a bit, and then starts to pop alot as I  
>> move up to 5K. After 5K it takes off like a champ and definitely  
>> has more power in the higher revs than it did before, but I want  
>> the lower RPM rideability I hear so much about ;) The end of the  
>> audio file is a quick rev up to 8K with no popping, it's just  
>> trying to sustain it between 4 and 5 that is kind of rough.
>>
>> So, do I keep tweaking my yogurt cups or is it time to monkey with  
>> the jets? I really don't want to monkey with the jets :)
>> Also, all test rides were done with the lid and snorkel bolted in  
>> place.
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>> -Kyle
>> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
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