Dennis:

I think you had the slow jet size right the first time.  I tried to re-
wire my slow jets as you suggested with a 0.050 drill bit and broke it
off in the jet when I tried to tap it through and it got stuck. I
ordered four new original Kein #38 slow jets which is the next size up
from the factory #35. I am able to pass a 0.013 inch wire but not a
0.015 through the new #38. If a #38 is bigger than a #35 it seems to
reason that a #35 is likley smaller than 0.013 and certainly not  4
times larger at 0.050


A frame of reference for those without a pair of micrometers:

200# mono fishing line is 0.050 inch,
40# mono fishing line is 0.025 inch,
12# mono fishing line is 0.013 inch,
6# mono fishing line is 0.010 inch

Glen

On Jan 15, 10:37 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
> You're at sea level.... 40 maybe. Clean 35 first.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 10:26:18 PM
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carb/K&N Tunning
>
> Dennis:
>
> What do you think about up sizzing to a 40 or 42 slow jet?
>
> Looking forward to alignment... left side of tire is less then 50%.
>
> On Jan 15, 10:05 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yes. Reclean. My mistake. It was pointed out to me and went back and 
> > measured the exact sizes.
> > Correct alignment ? I'll prepare a list of needed tools. Time consuming and 
> > sometimes disappointing.
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 9:51:32 PM
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carb/K&N Tunning
>
> > Dennis:
>
> > If the slow jet is #38 is 0.005" then when I wired it last year with a
> > 0.0011 diameter wire I did not clean it properly to 0.005". Should I
> > try cleaning them again with a 0.005" wire or buy new ones?
>
> > How do I correct alignment?
>
> > On Jan 15, 9:37 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The alignment of your bike is off, shifting the contact point from the 
> > > center of the tire to one side. You broke off  before getting to fine 
> > > tuning a chassis.
>
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 9:06:49 PM
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carb/K&N Tunning
>
> > > I am on my own, but thanks to the NH Lovers and folks like Dennis H, I
> > > am learning...
>
> > > Still puzzled about my tire wear issue,  may check archive.
>
> > > On Jan 15, 8:58 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Well, good luck :) I'm just grateful that I know ppl that speak 
> > > > carburetor.
>
> > > > -Kyle
>
> > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Snookfever <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Kyle:
>
> > > > > Thanks I found a message from Dennis from May of 2009 on the subject
> > > > > of  700S carb:
>
> > > > > Dennis wrote: "The actuall size of the hole in a slow jet (#38) is .
> > > > > 0011" That's eleven ten thousands of an inch. No typo."
>
> > > > > Final Jepoardy : I found two Keihin slow jets N424-21 and N424-26
> > > > > (http://www.pjmotorsports.com/keihin_jets_&_parts.htm) The diiference
> > > > > being the length 28 mm vs 23.5 mm.  I think its N424-21
>
> > > > > Since the Keihin slow jets range in size from (35, 38, 40, 42, 45, 48,
> > > > > 50, 52, 55, 58, 60, 62, 65, 68, 70, 72, 75, 78, 80)  and they are $7
> > > > > each I may buy a set of size 40 and 42.
>
> > > > > On Jan 15, 8:14 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Just go tohttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_loversandinthetop
> > > > > > right corner is a 'search this group' box. As to translating jet 
> > > > > > sizes I
> > > > > > have no idea how that's done, I just went with what Dennis said he'd
> > > > > > measured. The kit I got from starcycle came with two sizes to choose
> > > > > from,
> > > > > > we simply went with the smaller of the two because I wanted to 
> > > > > > maintain
> > > > > some
> > > > > > semblance of gas mileage. They worked great so I've still got the 
> > > > > > larger
> > > > > > sized jets in the box.
>
> > > > > > -Kyle
> > > > > > -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>
> > > > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Snookfever 
> > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Kyle:
>
> > > > > > > Thanks, how did you search old messages?  I recall a message from
> > > > > > > Dennis last year when I first cleaned the carbs and I thought he
> > > > > > > indicated the slow jet being 0.0011. I remember sanding a leader 
> > > > > > > wire
> > > > > > > to clean it.  Several web sites sell jets for Keihin carbs, but 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > size range is 35-80.  How do you translate the size number to the 
> > > > > > > bore
> > > > > > > diameter?
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 15, 7:49 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately, what I learned about jet sizes, is that they're
> > > > > arbitrary.
> > > > > > > > What one company might call a #35 for example doesn't really 
> > > > > > > > mean
> > > > > > > anything
> > > > > > > > to others. I think honda calls the stock jets #115 and #35. A 
> > > > > > > > quick
> > > > > > > search
> > > > > > > > of the group's archived messages turns up a msg from Dennis
> > > > > translating
> > > > > > > > those to inches for us.
>
> > > > > > > > The size of the #115 main jet in your bike is .041"
>
> > > > > > > > > The #35 is .005"
>
> > > > > > > > -Kyle
>
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Snookfever 
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]
>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Kyle:
>
> > > > > > > > > Do you recall the size of the slow jet you used?
>
> > > > > > > > > Allen:
>
> > > > > > > > > The K&N lets in more air but slower air which mean less fuel/
> > > > > > > > > leaner.The cup inside the K&N does not restrict air flow it
> > > > > > > > > accelerates it so it can pick up more fuel..
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 1:40 pm, Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Kyle, if you had to put a yogurt cup in the air cleaner to
> > > > > restrict
> > > > > > > > > > flow (richen the mixture) then I would think that it is too 
> > > > > > > > > > lean
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > you should have put in the bigger jets?
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 6:49 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > All we changed were the slow jets. The kit came with two 
> > > > > > > > > > > sizes
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > used
> > > > > > > > > > > the smaller set.
>
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