The only mention of religion was to protect it's inherents from the
government. The separation thing is in a letter to the Banbury
Baptists from Thomas Jefferson assuring them that indeed there is a
wall giving all Christian denominations equal access to influencing
the government. The 'wall' was to assure them (the Banbury Baptists)
that neither the Episcopaleans, nor the Methodists, nor the
Presbyterians, nor any other denomination would become the state
religion thus excluding the Baptists from equal influence in public
as well as private life. Interesting that today it's been turned
around to say the opposite.
On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Dennis Hammerl wrote:
A reading of the Constitution shows no such "separation" That has
become a liberal mantra. Nor does it endorse any religion. Would
you like the direct quote ?
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 11:15:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sticking floats
Yes, that is one of the many things that makes this country
great.... I have faught to defend her (ok i fixed toilets and
welded tv stands) while in the navy.... There are lot of problems
(please dont get me started on this healthcare bill), but our
constutition allows for us to change and adapt to overcome....
There is no doubt that america was founded in the judeo/christian
faith, but we were given seperation of church and state so that the
churches wouldent run the country, and freedom of religion so that
we can choose our own faith..... I believe that what was ment by
that was that we are free to choose our own religion as long as it
is a christian religion.... But another great thing about our
country is thast because the words are on paper the government has
to stick to it (yes theres always a loophole, i know)
-----Original Message-----
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:57:47 am
To: [email protected]
From: "Graham Rogers" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sticking floats
I became an American citizen after doing my graduate studies in
American history and finding in spite of my professors that America's
freedoms and greatness came directly from the impetus of the Judeo/
Christian faith, no question about it. The freedom or tolerance
towards other faiths coming and settling in America comes from the
Christian faith. It never ceases to amaze me. Look at the founding
constitutions of every state in the union and the words of the
founding fathers ....
On Mar 24, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Todd Hamilton wrote:
> Good enough for me. If you read it and made your choice you are an
> informed person. I wasn't trying to attack anyone's religious
> beliefs. I think what made America great was the freedom to choose
> freely on what you do and don't believe and weather or not you want
> to worship or not. It's a great freedom.
>
> Motorcycle riders typically have one thing in common. PASSION.
> It's not only for Motorcycles (brand, style, color, etc), but oil,
> tires, places to ride and you can always get a passionate
> discussion out of good group of people who like to ride.
>
> Sorry for helping stur the pot. I really enjoyed reading all the
> post. It appears most are not shy to share.
>
> Todd Hamilton
> 02 ZX6E
> 85 CB700S
> AMA #414386
>
>
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 10:10:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sticking floats
>
> I have read the bible... Cover to cover, i do not claim to be a
> scholar, but i do know what i believe and that i have my reasons
> for believing
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:46:08 am
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sticking floats
>
> Curious in speaking about the Bible. Have you read it? Most (I
> hear 90% of Americans) have not read it, but it was vital to the
> founding fathers of this nation. I took the challenge 5 years ago
> and completed the Bible in one year. My suggestion is to read it. I
> would suggest John first. Revelations second and Genesis third.
> Keep in mind all three religions come from Abraham. Jews and
> Muslims are brothers by two different mothers, so half brothers.
> Amazing how the two don't get along. God promised Abraham to be the
> father of many nations. He sure kept that promise.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:11:44
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sticking floats
>
> Ahhhh... How many times I've heard this argument presented. I'll
> give you credit for being a gentle soul. You must pass on to get
> the answer. Before that, you would do well to avail yourself of
> grace in this life. Your point may be posed to a Muslim and for
> your indecision, you
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