got them carbs off the 650 yesterday thanks for the hint re the hair dryer on the boots it made all the difference got the jet holes cleared out i couldnt believe how tiny the bore is also stuck in some new plugs talk about alive and kicking thanks everyone for their input
From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 5:40 PM To: Digest Recipients Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for [email protected] - 25 Messages in 6 Topics Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/topics a.. Oil change disaster, need some advice [9 Updates] b.. Fork springs and oil [2 Updates] c.. WOW! 1984 700 in Richmond [3 Updates] d.. 1983 CB750SC [9 Updates] e.. Nighthawk vs Concours [1 Update] f.. Advertising literature [1 Update] Topic: Oil change disaster, need some advice Noah Goodall <[email protected]> Jul 02 11:33AM -0400 ^ I don't know how I can massively screw up such a simple operation, but I did. I changed the oil for the first time last week, but in the process I overtightened the filter cover when it's tab wasn't properly aligned with the matching slot. They were overlapping, which caused the tab to snap off. I took the filter cover and broken tab and had it welded back together, but the filter cover is still leaking oil. My question is this: is the problem with the filter cover (as in was it not welded properly and I need a whole new cover) or is it with the washer that goes between the spring and the filter itself (which wasn't even there when I first got to the filter, and apparently didn't come with the bike when I purchased it)? Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. The bikes been not running for two weeks now and I'm dying to ride! Thanks, Noah Javier Garcia <[email protected]> Jul 02 11:52AM -0400 ^ Buy a new oil filter. David Cummings <[email protected]> Jul 02 11:57AM -0400 ^ First off, which nighthawk is this? I take it it's not a screw-on filter, otherwise Javier's response would be the best bet. Is the cover cast? -Dave Noah Goodall <[email protected]> Jul 02 12:08PM -0400 ^ Right sorry, this is a 1985 Nighthawk 450. Here's a link to the schematic. Part #4 is what's chipped. Part #5 is what's missing. It's not a screw on. What do you mean by cast? -Noah On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:57 AM, David Cummings < Joey Kelley <[email protected]> Jul 02 12:12PM -0400 ^ Noah, Didn't get a link - but I have an 82 450 and feel your pain. The part is cast aluminum btw - which is what David was asking. For those that don't know - the 450s have a filter that is installed into the engine, not a screw on type filter. Without seeing exactly what you've done I'm not sure how to advise you. My first impulse is to find a junked 450 and grab the oil filter cover, but I have seen some amazing things done with those that can weld. Can you upload pics somewhere? -Joey -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! David Cummings <[email protected]> Jul 02 12:13PM -0400 ^ Like, the engine cases are usually cast aluminum, but the gears are machined. Makes a little difference when welding... The link didn't come through to the schematic -Dave David Cummings <[email protected]> Jul 02 12:15PM -0400 ^ Yeah, honestly if a piece is broken off a cast part, it's probably better and cheaper to find a replacement. Any motorcycle salvage places near you? -Dave On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:13 PM, David Cummings Noah Goodall <[email protected]> Jul 02 12:31PM -0400 ^ Here's the link: http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1985-honda-motorcycle-cb450sc-nighthawk-450-lower-crankcase/o/m1968sch4492 It's already been welded, and it didn't work. I'm not sure if it was cast or machined. I don't have a camera but I should be able to upload a photo tonight. I guess the next step is to find a replacement. No salvage yards nearby, and my Nighthawk is my only transportation, so I'll probably have to order the part online. On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:15 PM, David Cummings < David Cummings <[email protected]> Jul 02 12:37PM -0400 ^ Did you replace the gasket? Might be worth a shot - and cheaper... Topic: Fork springs and oil Allen <[email protected]> Jul 02 08:26AM -0700 ^ Javier, are you off today? I ordered the progressive springs as well as new clutch parts. I'd like to get that spare piece of pvc if you have it still, I was thinking I might be able to get a piece of aluminum pipe of similar diameter and get it cut down prior to the springs coming in. While I guess the PVC would hold up but I'd feel better if the spacer was metal. Javier Garcia <[email protected]> Jul 02 11:46AM -0400 ^ I am working today, but I might leave early. Could you come by during the afternoon? I am thinking you could use my original spacers and then give me yours when you do the installation. Javier Topic: WOW! 1984 700 in Richmond Graham Rogers <[email protected]> Jul 02 07:52AM -0400 ^ yep, saw that last week On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:48 PM, David Cummings wrote: Javier Garcia <[email protected]> Jul 02 08:38AM -0400 ^ I saw it too. Not a bad price. I think some of those pictures should be in Paul's web page. You don't see many of those. Javier. stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> Jul 02 08:27AM -0700 ^ That is one fine machine, and the owner takes awesome pictures as well. I am tempted... Stanley ________________________________ From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 6:52:49 AM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] WOW! 1984 700 in Richmond yep, saw that last week On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:48 PM, David Cummings wrote: --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Topic: 1983 CB750SC Chris <[email protected]> Jul 02 04:49AM -0700 ^ Hi all, I just got the CB750SC from my cousin and he hasn't used the bike for 2 yrs. The bike has been through hell in the sence that it was not taken care of. I am in the process of restoring it. It has 10445 original miles and has had only two owners not including myself. Before I start the bike up and besides changing the spark plugs, oil, oil filter, air filter and battery what else would you recommend? Thanks, Chris [email protected] Jul 02 07:52AM -0700 ^ Drain the gas tank an carburetors to see what junk lies inside. Check the tank for rust also. Wayne 83 CB650SC Graham Rogers <[email protected]> Jul 02 10:53AM -0400 ^ drain fuel out of tank, clean petcock, use fresh fuel On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Chris wrote: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> Jul 02 10:57AM -0400 ^ Have a whole can of SeaFoam (see an earlier thread) available. -Joey <[email protected]> Jul 02 10:57AM -0400 ^ Sounds good is their any thing like o-rings or gaskets that I would need to take into consideration? Thank you, Christopher López PSI Designer Synthes CMF-PSI 1301 Goshen Parkway West Chester, PA 19380 Phone: 610-719-6841 Fax: 610-719-6533 [email protected] S -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB750SC Drain the gas tank an carburetors to see what junk lies inside. Check the tank for rust also. Wayne 83 CB650SC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. <[email protected]> Jul 02 10:59AM -0400 ^ I was also told to use oil fog and spray all around is that also advisable? Thank you, Christopher López PSI Designer Synthes CMF-PSI 1301 Goshen Parkway West Chester, PA 19380 Phone: 610-719-6841 Fax: 610-719-6533 [email protected] S -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB750SC Sounds good is their any thing like o-rings or gaskets that I would need to take into consideration? Thank you, Christopher López PSI Designer Synthes CMF-PSI 1301 Goshen Parkway West Chester, PA 19380 Phone: 610-719-6841 Fax: 610-719-6533 [email protected] S -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB750SC Drain the gas tank an carburetors to see what junk lies inside. Check the tank for rust also. Wayne 83 CB650SC > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> Jul 02 08:23AM -0700 ^ ... and check the tank to determine if there is rust in it... ________________________________ From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 9:53:43 AM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB750SC drain fuel out of tank, clean petcock, use fresh fuel On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Chris wrote: --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. [email protected] Jul 02 08:24AM -0700 ^ Once you start on the carbs that's what will let you know. You may want to clean and rebuild them right off. Especially since you said it hasn't been taken care of. Wayne [email protected] Jul 02 08:26AM -0700 ^ Hadn't heard that one. Anyone else heard that? Wayne Topic: Nighthawk vs Concours Javier Garcia <[email protected]> Jul 02 08:36AM -0400 ^ Does anyone have tried one the new Concours's? i.e., 2008 or newer? Javier. Topic: Advertising literature Joey Kelley <[email protected]> Jul 02 05:59AM -0400 ^ Hello All, Just wondering does anyone know of a good source for original or high quality reproduction sales literature for the early NH's? I'd love to have a copy of the 1982 450 sales flyer like the one Paul has on his site. Thanks! -Joey PS -if anyone has one and would scan it for me, that would do as well... -- -Joey Kelley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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