When i installed the led signals on the 250, (now michas 250) not all the leds 
would light up no matter how much i reved... And after a week or so they "broke 
in" so that they all worked... I never replaced the flasher unit, so they would 
be all on or all off... But i thought those lights were the best thing i did 
for that bike


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Date: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:23:51 pm
To: [email protected]
From: "Joey Kelley" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My 4th of July

Javier,
         LEDs are extremely sensitive to voltage compared to normal
light bulbs. Normal light bulbs will simply be dimmer under less
voltage. LEDs may simply not light at all.
         LEDs require very little current - so unless they are
equipped with a resistor that adds additional load, the load on the
charging system shouldn't have increased that much.
         To prove that its the voltage being put out by the charging
system do this:
         Take a voltmeter - preferably digital - and measure the
starting voltage of the battery.
         Fire the bike up. Take note of the voltage of the battery
with the bike idling. It shouldn't be remarkably different from the
pre-starting voltage.
         Hold the throttle open so the engine revs up to approximately
2,000 RPM and hold there. Measure the voltage again. You should see an
increase of a couple volts.
         Now - release the throttle. Turn on the blinkers - you'll see
that the voltage drops as the lights turn on each time.
         Open the throttle back up to hold at 2,000 RPM and measure
the voltage with the blinkers on. You should see that although their
might be a variance between lights on and off, the difference should
be much smaller than the engine idling.
         This simply means that the charging system is providing
electricity to the electrical system on the bike instead of drawing it
from the battery. With the throttle open, you should see all the LEDs
blinking.
         The only 'cure' for this is to reduce the load on the
electrical system so the voltage drop from the blinkers turning on is
lower. This is one of the advantages of an all LED system - but you
must replace the flasher unit at the same time, otherwise they will
fail to blink because the existing system is load based. No / less
load, no blinking.
          Hope that helps!
           -Joey
(Not a physicist - but I watch the Big Bang Theory :-))

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Joey,
> I can see them blinking at the same rate as the standard turn signals.
> However, one odd thing did happened. At the beginning not all the led's in
> the mirror illuminate, only about half of the line went on. When I turn on
> the engine and let it rev for few seconds all the leds in both mirrors came
> on. So I am a bit worry about the load on the system. I am ashame to admit
> that I am physicist that knows about electromagnetic theory but I have no
> idea how to apply it. I will try to make a short video of the thing
> tomorrow.
>
> Javier.
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Javier,
>>         Very nice - please advise how the additional turn signals
>> affect the blink rate and such.
>>         -Joey
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> > I decided to spend my day giving a good deep cleaning to the bike and to
>> > install a new set of mirrors I got. I figured out it wa

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