Just mount the clear water tank on the handlebars. Problem solved ;)

-Kyle


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM, paul annen <[email protected]> wrote:

> i would like a warning at 25% and a second warning with buzzer at 10% or
> 15%, then a shutdown at 5%... lots of warning with a shutdown
> before damage can occur... and its not like you cant carry extra water or
> get more almost anywhere... i would also try to size the water tank so it
> lasts as long as your fuel... so you just get in the habbit of topping off
> water when you get gas
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Better would be a warning rather than a kill, so that you don't
>> suddenly shut down in the middle of something crucial...
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:51 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > You are sooooo right.  It would be best to have a kill switch that
>> activates
>> > if the water runs too low.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Allen Thomas <[email protected]>
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 5:01:55 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Anybody want to ditch the CV carbs
>> on
>> > their 750 for some racing mikuni flatslides? I also have some other
>> parts
>> > that must go!‏
>> >
>> > Don't ever let that water tank run dry though! 12.7 is really high
>> > compression, running junk gas without the water would make that engine
>> > detonate and overheat big time. As for VW I was into them for a couple
>> > years, never hot rodded them though just drove them as beaters. With
>> that
>> > gear ratio (5.30 I think), I can see how even a 10HP difference would be
>> a
>> > big improvement. With their stock 60HP they had decent acceleration in
>> 1st
>> > and 2nd.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 5:39 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Like I said:  with Webers, my Beetle had the equivalent of a dual
>> throat
>> >> but at each intake port, and it achieved 32mpg on the road with a speed
>> of
>> >> about 85 mph, average.  Yeah, they were butterfly valves, but the carb
>> >> itself is superior at atomizing the fuel.  That is what gets the
>> mileage and
>> >> power up over any other carb with the same size venturi.  So I had no
>> loss
>> >> in mileage per gallon, and a definitely pronounced increase in power
>> and top
>> >> end.  Normal top speed for a Beetle back then was 85.
>> >> Side draft, btw, uses more fuel, as I understand it.
>> >> The HP could very well increase beyond 47%, with just the addition of
>> >> water injection and a bump up in compression to about 12.7, on the
>> 750.  And
>> >> add, along with that, double the mileage per gallon.   All on just 87
>> octane
>> >> gasoline.  Plus, less chance of a valve burning, as the water cools the
>> burn
>> >> as it quickens it and enhances its power.  Like NOS without the danger.
>> >>
>> >> Stanley
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Aldo <[email protected]>
>> >> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 2:08:56 PM
>> >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Anybody want to ditch the CV carbs on
>> >> their 750 for some racing mikuni flatslides? I also have some other
>> parts
>> >> that must go!‏
>> >>
>> >> You would trade approx 5-10 MPG for roughly 25hp gain... always seemed
>> >> like a fair trade to me. The bike will stay every bit as reliable too.
>> >> In some aspects it would become more reliable without the vacuum
>> >> system (Mikuni carbs only require a push-pull throttle cable... simple
>> >> is good).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> These flat slides are modern technology... The stock carbs are
>> >> dinosaurs. These motors are golden and they can produce so much power
>> >> with the right carbs. The old stock Keihin CVs run very lean and
>> >> airflow doesn't compare. It is really only a problem if you want MORE
>> >> POWER!!! Re-jetting the stock carbs can only help so much. I think
>> >> many of us are content with the stock carbs on our 750 but I for one
>> >> thought honda could have set us up a little better.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kurt,
>> >>
>> >> I am sorry my friend one of the other NH Lovers beat you to the
>> >> pipes... they're sold.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Peace and Grease!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ~Aldo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 14, 10:18 am, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Almost a 47% increase, to be a little more precise.  It does sound a
>> bit
>> >> > far
>> >> > fetched.  Not even with an extractor exhaust system.  Plus, they are,
>> as
>> >> > you
>> >> > say, double pumpers.  Sounds to me, like they'd use a lot more fuel.
>> >> > I would sooner put a couple of Webers on instead.
>> >> > On a Beetle with only a 1776 dual port engine that was
>> >> > statically balanced and
>> >> > CC'd and a c/r of around 8.1:1, my increase in HP with two single
>> >> > throat Webers
>> >> > and an extractor exhaust and a very mild cam for torque not
>> revs  made
>> >> > it
>> >> > possible to whip this guy in a Mitsubishi Galant with a 2.0L pushing
>> >> > 142HP.
>> >> > That was without attempting to do so, as I told him about a year
>> later
>> >> > when he
>> >> > saw my Beetle and recognized it from the time my humble Beetle mopped
>> up
>> >> > his Galant.  I don't drag from stop signs, but I was in a hurry to
>> >> > get on my way
>> >> > to Fla. that day and I did remember some Mitsubishi next to
>> me breathing
>> >> > hard
>> >> > and really taking off as I turned down a side street.  Made me wonder
>> if
>> >> > I had
>> >> > done something to piss him off, or he had a spat with his woman or
>> >> > something.
>> >> > Now, that really exasperated him.
>> >> > That thing (my Beetle) would go over 100mph and get 32mpg doing it.
>> Had
>> >> > to put
>> >> > extra weight in the front for safety.
>> >> > Of course, it wasn't cca/c (closed circuit air conditioning).  I had
>> the
>> >> > vents
>> >> > open for air.  Sort of like riding a bike without the bugs and road
>> grit
>> >> > from
>> >> > the semi in front of you hitting your arms and getting in your
>> eyes and
>> >> > hair,
>> >> > even with a helmet.
>> >> > But yeah, it was a cage, albeit a happy one...
>> >> >
>> >> > Stanley
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> > From: Allen Thomas <[email protected]>
>> >> > To: [email protected]
>> >> > Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 9:56:24 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Anybody want to ditch the CV carbs on
>> >> > their 750
>> >> > for some racing mikuni flatslides? I also have some other parts that
>> >> > must go!‏
>> >> >
>> >> > Aldo, I'm a bit skeptical on the 100HP claim. Please educate me. I
>> can't
>> >> > see how
>> >> > changing carburation could net +40% increase. Here is why: both
>> >> > carburator sets
>> >> > are the same diameter so they will flow the same CFM. Even if the
>> slide
>> >> > carbs
>> >> > flowed more CFM, flowing higher CFM only benefits at WOT, so unless
>> the
>> >> > lower
>> >> > CFM carb were seriously undersized would you get any benefit. In fact
>> if
>> >> > the
>> >> > carburator flows a higher CFM than the engine can draw, then you will
>> >> > actually
>> >> > make less power! So taking flow off the table the only benefits of
>> slide
>> >> > carbs
>> >> > over CV are that you can open the venturi faster as it is not
>> depending
>> >> > on
>> >> > vacume to move the slide. This has importance to drag racing; first
>> it
>> >> > allows
>> >> > you do run pods with no ill effect, it also allows you to drop the
>> >> > weight of the
>> >> > airbox, and lastly you can feel if you are opening them at the proper
>> >> > rate (like
>> >> > I said if you're carb flow is higher than engine draw you loose
>> power).
>> >> > You
>> >> > would gain HP by the reduced intake flow of the pods but not over
>> 40%.
>> >> > To get
>> >> > those kind of numbers you would need to cam, change valve
>> springs, and
>> >> > most
>> >> > likely port the head, which would maximize the power output at a
>> higher
>> >> > RPM.
>> >> > Also an ignition advance would be needed which requires a part I have
>> >> > not been
>> >> > able to find. This of course would take away from the drivability of
>> the
>> >> > engine.
>> >> > I can't tell you how many hot rods I have spanked over the years that
>> >> > had a
>> >> > tunnel ram intake with a 750CFM or larger carb on a basically
>> >> > stock small
>> >> > block. Had they known that a dual plane intake with a 600CFM would
>> make
>> >> > them
>> >> > faster they might have had a chance. In car terms what you are doing
>> >> > with slide
>> >> > carbs vs. CV is going from a vacuum secondary to a double pumper. It
>> >> > isn't
>> >> > necessarily an upgrade, it all depends on the setup.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Aldo <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know if any of you are interested but I have some racing
>> carbs
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >that will fit a 1991-2003 NH750 I don't know if the other Nighthawks
>> >> > >have 34mm carbs but maybe they'll fit them too. These are the key to
>> >> > >unlocking some major power in the CB750 motor. It is not for
>> >> > >everyone... 100HP is a big difference from 67.7HP
>> >> >
>> >> > >They are 34mm Mikuni Flatslide racing carbs just like below:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > >
>> http://www.orientexpress.com/Universal+Parts+%252526+Accessories/Inta...
>> >> >
>> >> > >If you are interested maybe we can strike a deal... I don't want to
>> >> > >lose too much cash on this but I am not using them so I better sell
>> >> > >'em.
>> >> >
>> >> > >I also have:
>> >> >
>> >> > >Stock NH750 seat in nice shape. $90 Shipped
>> >> >
>> >> > >Stock 4 into 2 pipes in nice shape. $100 + shipping
>> >> >
>> >> > >Stock chain guard in nice shape. $25 Shipped
>> >> >
>> >> > >Stock mirrors also in nice shape. $25 Shipped
>> >> >
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