You shouldn't need it for the headlight, but be careful that the LEDs are bright enough for headlight duty. They may not be as focused if you don't get the right ones. The relay that needs replacing is only for turn signals. The "blinker element" on older vehicles works by opening and closing the circuit based on the draw of the current. LEDs don't draw as much so it effects the timing of the relay and usually causes them to blink too fast, just like when one bulb is burned out. Modern relays use digital timers and don't care about the current.
-Kyle On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:26 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > what is and where is the relay u ttalk about that needs replacing for led > i am considering rejigging the head light with led andy info would be > useful > paul > > *From:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:02 AM > *To:* Digest Recipients <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for [email protected] > 21 Messages in 10 Topics > > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/topics > > - take me off your list <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_0> [1 Update] > - New Book - Leslie Kean- UFO's <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_1> [1 > Update] > - ADMIN: TOPIC CLOSED The thread "I have to go" is now > closed<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_2>[1 Update] > - Motorcyle goes off randomly. <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_3> [5 > Updates] > - Ready to Roll <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_4> [1 Update] > - LED Turn Signals <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_5> [5 Updates] > - seat <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_6> [4 Updates] > - I have to go.. <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_7> [1 Update] > - cam cover gasket <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_8> [1 Update] > - Look what I found... <#12aab5bd674ad9a6_group_thread_9> [1 Update] > > Topic: take me off your > list<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/ae5120607f1eee82> > > Brian Smith <[email protected]> Aug 25 09:18AM > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > Please unsubscribe me form " NightHawk Lovers " > > > > Topic: New Book - Leslie Kean- > UFO's<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/68393ae863481602> > > [email protected] Aug 25 01:13AM -0500 ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > > > http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Generals-Pilots-Government-Officials/dp/0307716848/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282716722&sr=1-1 > > > > Topic: ADMIN: TOPIC CLOSED The thread "I have to go" is now > closed<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/be8df05110ec3c04> > > Paul <[email protected]> Aug 24 11:10PM -0600 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > *Let's move on folks.* > * > * > *Paul* > > * > * > * > * > > > > Topic: Motorcyle goes off > randomly.<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/da696c5a5207bc64> > > Allen Thomas <[email protected]> Aug 24 08:24PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > Good call on being in gear. Along those lines, the neutral safety > switch could also be bad. > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > Joey Kelley <[email protected]> Aug 24 10:03PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > On my 82 450 I can start it in any gear, with or without the clutch in > - I'm not certain, would have to find and look up my manual, but I'm > not sure the 82 450 had a neutral safety switch. Either that or the > previous owner bypassed it or its simply not working. > -Joey > > > -- > -Joey Kelley > Need Computer Technical support? > http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices > At your service - via remote control! > > > > > Kyle Munz <[email protected]> Aug 24 09:06PM -0500 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > My 700 and 650 both will start in any gear too as long as the clutch is > pulled in. It does have a kill switch hooked up to the clutch, that's > something else to check. As long as the engine turns over by hand you > can > try shorting the starter to ground with a stout screwdriver. If you > electrocute yourself or blow the bike up you didn't hear that advice > from me > ;) > > -Kyle > > > > > > > [email protected] Aug 24 09:55PM -0500 ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > Then change 50-Amp Fusible Link > > > >to ground with a stout screwdriver. If you electrocute yourself or > blow the bike > > >up you didn't hear that advice from me ;) > > > >-Kyle > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >class=" > parsedEmail">[email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > > > > http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices > > > At your service - via remote control! > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >class=" > parsedEmail">[email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > > > > > > Stumpi <[email protected]> Aug 24 08:36PM -0700 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > Sounds like they bypasses both of your switches Joey. Mine will start > if either the clutch in is or it's in neutral. The starter won't turn > unless the clutch is depressed if I'm in gear. Your neutral safety > switch is that big hump under the carburetors on the transmission. > It's driven by a little cam on the shift drum and also works the 6th > gear light. > > > > Topic: Ready to > Roll<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/755cb2ab8ab4e56c> > > [email protected] Aug 24 10:07PM -0500 ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > I've got 2-new tire's, rebuilt clutch slave-cylinder, rebuilt forks w/ > new dust-seals., Ignition is fixed & I'm ready for inspection., > > & an adventurous winter! > > > >bike > > >>up you didn't hear that advice from me ;) > > > >>-Kyle > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Joey Kelley <mailto:[email protected]"; > target="_blank" class=" parsedEmail parsedEmail > > > >>class=" parsedEmail">mailto: > > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]>" > target="_blank" class="parsedEmail > > > >parsedEmail">[email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > > >> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > > > >> http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices > > >> At your service - via remote control! > > > >> -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > >>class=" parsedEmail">mailto: > > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]>" > target="_blank" class="parsedEmail > > > >parsedEmail">[email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > > > >target="_blank"> > > >>target="_blank"> > > >target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > > > > > Topic: LED Turn > Signals<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/b58afa0d6efe91f2> > > Kyle Munz <[email protected]> Aug 24 09:19PM -0500 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > I picked up some flush-mount Motrax indicators from cycle gear just to > check > them out. I didn't mount them or anything I just plugged them in to see > if I > would like them or not. The answer is "not". They weren't bright at > all. The > stock early 80s incandescent 70s-ish style blinkers that come on the > bike > were at least twice as bright. So much for progress. I already know > about > needing to replace the relay but I'll worry about that once I find > brighter > LEDs. I know there's been some talk about LEDs in the past, but what > brand > have people gone with? Were they brighter than the stockers? > > -Kyle > > > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Aug 24 07:32PM -0700 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > Mine were super bright... But they werent flush mount.... Also bought > from cycle gear, about $45 for the pair > -----Original Message----- > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:20:17 pm > To: [email protected] > From: "Kyle Munz" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] LED Turn Signals > > I picked up some flush-mount Motrax indicators from cycle gear just to > check > them out. I didn't mount them or anything I just plugged them in to see > if I > would like them or not. The answer is "not". They weren't bright at > all. The > stock early 80s incandescent 70s-ish style blinkers that come on the > bike > were at least twice as bright. So much for progress. I already know > about > needing to replace the relay but I'll worry about that once I find > brighter > LEDs. I know there's been some talk about LEDs in the past, but what > brand > have people gone with? Were they brighter than the stockers? > > -Kyle > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > > Kyle Munz <[email protected]> Aug 24 09:41PM -0500 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > You happen to remember the brand? I'm taking these weak ones back > tomorrow. > > -Kyle > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:32 PM, [email protected] < > > > > > paul annen <[email protected]> Aug 24 10:57PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > pretty shure they were these... > > http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=MRX_LA1_G > > <http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=MRX_LA1_G>yes > they > are mototrax, but with 15 leds in each cluster, it was super bright... > i has > natural alumimum not the black ones... and i recomend tightening the > set > screw on the back and using some locktite... they took a week or so to > "warm > up" or "break in"... they were dim at first, but ended up awsome! > > > > > > > > > Kyle Munz <[email protected]> Aug 24 10:04PM -0500 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > I'll look for those tomorrow. Thanks. > > -Kyle > > > > > > Topic: > seat<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/c4ff260fd6c847ad> > > Stumpi <[email protected]> Aug 24 05:29PM -0700 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > I think your best bet is to reshape the seat yourself. This is the > guide I was going to use before I decided to change bikes instead of > seats. http://www.diymotorcycleseat.com/index.php > > > > > Allen Thomas <[email protected]> Aug 24 08:30PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > I'm not at my computer I'll send some links later. But a quick google > on rebuilding a motorcycle seat should return good info. We had a > thread about this not long ago. I posted a bunch of links on > suppliers. Definately use closed cell foam in case water gets in. Lots > of people modify their seats to put in gell pads too. > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > Joey Kelley <[email protected]> Aug 24 10:01PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > Seafoam! > (Inside group joke!) > Hehehehe.... > -Joey > > > -- > -Joey Kelley > Need Computer Technical support? > http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices > At your service - via remote control! > > > > > paul annen <[email protected]> Aug 24 10:06PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > seafoam, lol > > > > > Topic: I have to > go..<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/8f25d25afa9e792e> > > Allen Thomas <[email protected]> Aug 24 08:41PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > Wouldn't it be better to not have to move to a county with a good > school system, and instead just send them to a good school near where > you want to live. That is the problem with taxing people more money > than a private school charges and providing a canned one size fits all > education. > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > > > Topic: cam cover > gasket<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/5762aa8c0f059894> > > Allen Thomas <[email protected]> Aug 24 08:34PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > It's been my experience that you can reuse rubber gaskets, but not > cork or paper even if they come off in one piece. > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > > > Topic: Look what I > found...<http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/t/ab47cba83e73f6c3> > > Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> Aug 24 12:40PM -0400 > ^<#12aab5bd674ad9a6_digest_top> > > They're everywhere! > > So are the bloody scooters, taking up all the motorcycle parking spots! > > -Kurt > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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