No offense intended, but W-D 40 is junk.  I would use MM Oil if you don't want 
to opt for the proprietary oil.  I haven't researched this type stuff, because 
I 
am more into making my hydrogen generator and medical research for my family to 
not have to rely on the allopaths that aren't as knowlegable about the 
medicines 
they presccribe as the pharmacists that fill the scrips.  And are mostly 
ignorant of the virtues of ancient, naturopathic medicines consisting of herbs, 
spices, and various concoctions.
For instance, I spray my garden with a mix of tea made of chewing tobacco and 
soap.  If it doesn't kill the critters directly, they ingest it when they eat 
the leaves and die anyway.  I use cayenne pepper on ant beds in the garden, and 
gasoline on beds in the yard.
I use colloidal silver for all respiratory ailments via nebulizer.  This 
includes pneumonia, either viral or bacterial.  I make it myself rather 
than purchase it from the drug store or health food store, as they charge $4.00 
an ounce.  I am somewhat knowlegable as to which brands of allopathic 
concoctions are effective and which of the same substances are not.
I have learned the things I know because I have had time on my hands at work to 
do research online in the past year or two; and now that I am semi - retired, I 
have even more time.
Now, before retiring for the evening (well, morning) I would like to mention 
the 
tragedy in Japan, the home of our beloved Nighthawks.  If you will note, there 
is a real keen sense of community, of connection there, and people are helping 
each other, unlike in the aftermath of New Orleans disaster, where the police 
and Guard were less than completely effective at preventing the looting going 
on.
I know Aaron Nevill's sister, via my step-mother, and I have heard her perform 
in person.  I was shocked to learn that she was raped in the aftermath of that 
hurricane, while waiting on a rooftop for rescue.  This would never have 
happened in Japan.  If you didn't know, there was child molestation going on in 
the Dome, and consequently some violent, vigilante reprisal in response.
If you will recall, protesters were dispersed with force back in the '60s.  
Now, 
the legislative chambers in Wisconsin have been constantly overrun with greedy, 
selfish demonstrators, who represent people who already earn more than their 
private enterprize counterparts. The police and fire dept., it would seem, are 
part of the protest?
The Governor is being portrayed as the villain in this scenario.
We are about to experience an economic collapse, the result of which will be 
greater than the "Great Depression. "  This is because of the prevalent lack of 
integrity of people compared to back then.
I inquired about pistons for the caliper of my 450 and they wanted $80 for two 
pieces of steel, which, if I had a lathe, I could make myself and then heat 
treat.
I paid only $110 for my first step-thru Honda 50.  Parts were very inexpensive 
and yet high quality.  It was because of the strength of the dollar, which was 
worth 360 Yen.  Now it has sunk to less than 80 Yen to the dollar in recent 
weeks, and in a few months, will be worth even less across the whole world.
We will lose our status as the reserve currency of the wold and gas will be 
around $6.00, maybe even $8.00 a gallon 

The smaller bikes are going to be in big demand soon, because of the coming 
price of gasoline and even worse, Diesel.  I have been sorely tempted to 
purchase this Brand new Rebel I saw on the showroom floor of my local 
"stealership" as some call it, because of two reasons: one, it's a gorgeous 
bike, and two, it will achieve around 110 MPG with my hydrogen generator.
I use a bicycle with a 25 cc motor now, which sips gas, at the rate of around 
175 MPG, and goes around 30 MPH.  I use  the 450 for fun, but I need to rebuild 
the front caliper.
The Rebel - if i purchase it -  would be for my wife for around town, to 
replace  the 250  Nighthawk, which she is tired of; the 450, which I bought to 
see if she liked it, is too tall for her.
That's fine - I have always wanted the 450.  It is the best bike of the 
Nighthawks, IMHO. Sufficient power and around 60 MPG.  I will probably achieve 
around 100 with my hydrogen generator, and more power as well, which is already 
scary enough for this old coot, who hasn't been on a relatively powerful bike 
in 
several decades. 

I am sorry if some of my thoughts offend or alarm some of you, but part of 
being 
in a group is looking out and sharing that which may help others to be prepared 
for the pending disaster that is coming.  

I read yesterday that many of the billionaires are quietly getting out of the 
stock market, transferring their funds elsewhere for more stability.  Like, 
maybe, precious metals?  Personally, I prefer land.  You can't plant metals and 
eat the fruits thereof, and when the price of fuel to harvest crops on those 
huge corporate farms becomes that high, the crops - if they are grown at all - 
will likely not be harvested or brought to market, and if they are, the cost of 
just a meal will be as prophesied in the Bible - a whole day's wage.I will now 
stay the thoughts coursing through my mind, flowing to my fingertips and to  
you 
on this screen.  


Stanley




________________________________
From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 12:15:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] K&N filters

so I can't just spray WD-40 on it or soak it in 30W oild? 


On Mar 18, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:

Uni sells a recharge kit too. Like I said their "oil" is a sticky substance 
more 
than an oil I would get that rather than the K&N. Since the uni is foam based 
rather than cloth. 

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>From: Paul <[email protected]> 
>Sender: [email protected] 
>Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:35:25 -0600
>To: <[email protected]>
>ReplyTo: [email protected] 
>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] K&N filters
>
>Hmmm. JC Whitney sells a UNI foam filter for $9.99 and if I bought the K&N air 
>filter oil (aerosol can) for $8.18 I would be in it for a lot less than an 
>actual K&N filter. I wonder.... 
>
>
>
>Paul
>
>
>On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Eric Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>the one i just got was not preoiled. it took 5 minutes to install and now my 
>bike runs much better. more hp and its low idle was mitigated as well. i think 
>a 
>dirty filter was the cause of a number of my issues. the oem one was dirty as 
>hell. 
>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>Paul,
>>>       Usually they come pre-oiled - but they recommend that you wash and 
>>>re-oil 
>>>them after a certain number of miles. 
>>>
>>>        -Joey 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>I've never purchased a K&N filter before. Does it come with the fluid/oil 
>>>for 
>>>the filter? 
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Graham,
>>>>>         It more resembles Marvel Mystery Oil - its red in color - a very 
>>>>>light 
>>>>>oil - it is lighter than transmission fluid but a similar color.
>>>>>         As to 'how can you tell its better' - I don't know - I assume you 
>>>>>can 
>>>>>flow test it on a bench - but I can confirm that I did get more power and 
>>>>>gas 
>>>>>mileage with the K&N than before.
>>>>>         -Joey 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>what's their filter fluid?  Something like whatt we have in the garage 
>>>>>like WD40 
>>>>>or 30W engine oil?  Graham 
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mar 18, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Joey Kelley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Javier is correct - K&N's are washable and can be re-coated with their 
>>>>>>'Filter 
>>>>>>Fluid' - they also provide more flow without losing filtration than a 
>>>>>>stock 
>>>>>>filter (usually a good thing but not for lean jetted Hondas!) I run one 
>>>>>>on my 
>>>>>>car and got about two more miles to the gallon because it uncorked a few 
>>>>>>more 
>>>>>>ponies in the engine and it doesn't shift down as much.
>>>>>>>        -Joey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> 
>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think the K&N are reusable, and the others are not.
>>>>>>>>I think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Javier. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Can someone explain to me why K&N air filters are so expensive? What 
>>>>>>>>about the 
>>>>>>>>filter justifies the added expense? 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Paul
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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