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On May 27, 2012 12:37 PM, "Michael Curran" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was only messing with the Harley comment. Truth be told I'm considering
> getting one...
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus
>
> Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Mike,
> >        I daresay most of the HD's I know of actually don't leak
> >oil.... Sorry to disappoint.
> >        :-)
> >        I'm going to take a detailed look at it myself before I make
> >any further decisions - but I have to admit my first thought was to
> >take a breaker bar and beat some sense into it.
> >        Wasn't my best first thought....
> >        :-)
> >         -Joey
> >
> >On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:24 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Kyle,
> >> Hey, that's a foul and not very funny. I call shenanigans!
> >> Ok maybe a little funny. LOL
> >>
> >> But seriously, I'm not a gearhead either, but from the work & money you
> >> already have in it, it sounds like a rebuild might not be such a bad
> thing.
> >> You could open her up a bit for a little more by boring her out a bit,
> or
> >> just have it rebuilt as is. Perhaps looking for a replacement engine is
> a
> >> better way to go.
> >>
> >> Or you could buy some Harley emblems for it, they leak oil too right...
> >> you'd fit right in... :-O
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
> >> To: nighthawk_lovers <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 11:14 am
> >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well it appears I'm hanging up my
> Leather
> >> Jacket
> >>
> >> Have you tried dipping the bike in Seafoamâ„¢ yet?
> >>
> >> -Kyle
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks though!
> >>>    :-)
> >>>    -Joey
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:01 AM, paul annen <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > o, sorry...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Paul,
> >>> >>         Wrong end of the right coast :-)
> >>> >>         I'm in central Maine.
> >>> >>           -Joey
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, paul annen <[email protected]
> >
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> > joey, you are in south florida right? if you can trailer it up to
> the
> >>> >> > orlando area i might have a guy that wont charge you an arm and a
> leg
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > split the case and get you rebuilt..
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I picked up this bike a year ago this spring - put 6,500 miles
> on it
> >>> >> >> last year. At the end of the season, I had the entire rear brake
> >>> >> >> system replaced - the rotor (bad when I bought it, but didn't
> >>> >> >> realize
> >>> >> >> HOW bad) had eaten into the piston behind the brake caliper.
> Whoops.
> >>> >> >> Even had the master cylinder replaced - as the shop claimed they
> >>> >> >> couldn't get it to pump up after the new rotor went on. Evidently
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> rear tire that was also replaced at the same time was actually
> the
> >>> >> >> wrong size - lead to handling issues that I couldn't pinpoint
> since
> >>> >> >> the rear tire was actually hitting on the frame of the bike under
> >>> >> >> cornering. (Rear of the bike would just slide sideways with no
> >>> >> >> warning
> >>> >> >> - or at least thats how it felt, the tire itself never broke
> loose,
> >>> >> >> just felt like something was broken in the suspension)
> >>> >> >>         At the start of last season I installed (with
> considerable
> >>> >> >> help from my Dad) an electronic ignition system to replace the
> >>> >> >> faulty
> >>> >> >> points.
> >>> >> >>         At no point did I think I was running a bike with really
> bad
> >>> >> >> carb problems. At the end of last year when I started getting a
> >>> >> >> slight
> >>> >> >> knocking sound something wasn't quite right. Smart money was on
> the
> >>> >> >> valves being out of adjustment One look at the shimming
> procedure on
> >>> >> >> this bike was enough to make my eyes cross. I elected to haul it
> >>> >> >> into
> >>> >> >> a shop for that. A large part of that decision was finding out
> what
> >>> >> >> the local Suzuki dealer was going to charge me for the shims.
> >>> >> >>         So I rode the Suzuki into the shop about a half hour away
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> dropped it off.
> >>> >> >>         Most of this next bit is what I was told.
> >>> >> >>         Unfortunately my own mouth got me into trouble and I
> asked
> >>> >> >> them to 'fix everything'. Yeah. Whoops. Well after the valve
> >>> >> >> adjustment job was done, they figured out that it wasn't running
> >>> >> >> terribly well - even after the valves and ignition timing were
> >>> >> >> adjusted. Making the logical assumption that after the spark
> plugs
> >>> >> >> were changed (I asked for that) the carbs must be the problem.
> When
> >>> >> >> the carbs were removed and disassembled - a large amount of rust
> was
> >>> >> >> found - jamming into the jets I understand. After several days in
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> dunk tank and four carb rebuild kits - they came out all shiny
> and
> >>> >> >> new.
> >>> >> >>          While all of this was going on an oil leak was
> discovered.
> >>> >> >> I
> >>> >> >> was told about it - but I had a hard time believing that an oil
> leak
> >>> >> >> so bad that it couldn't be ridden would have spontaneously
> >>> >> >> developed.
> >>> >> >> I guess I'm wrong - perhaps the winter in the cold shed opened
> up a
> >>> >> >> seal.
> >>> >> >>           At some point I'm going to give it a very detailed once
> >>> >> >> over after I've checked the oil level and see if I can put my
> >>> >> >> eyeballs
> >>> >> >> on where the problem lies.
> >>> >> >>           -Joey
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:08 AM, nighthawkin <
> [email protected]>
> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > so what did the dealer do for 8xx.xx bucks then!?  so you say
> it
> >>> >> >> > didnt
> >>> >> >> > leak
> >>> >> >> > when you took it in there?  or is this a new/used bike you just
> >>> >> >> > picked
> >>> >> >> > up?
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Joey Kelley <
> [email protected]>
> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> All,
> >>> >> >> >>            Allow me to clarify.
> >>> >> >> >>            The oil leak is so bad that when I rolled into my
> >>> >> >> >> driveway
> >>> >> >> >> after 30 miles there was enough burning on the exhaust that it
> >>> >> >> >> appeared there was a white cloud coming from the right hand
> side
> >>> >> >> >> of
> >>> >> >> >> the bike.
> >>> >> >> >>             It appears to be burning on the #4 exhaust pipe.
> Upon
> >>> >> >> >> further inspection the entire right hand side of the bike has
> oil
> >>> >> >> >> splatters, along with my right pants leg.
> >>> >> >> >>            The oil currently in it is 10w40 Kawasaki branded
> oil,
> >>> >> >> >> but
> >>> >> >> >> when I rode it in there it had Castrol in it - also 10w40
> JASO/
> >>> >> >> >> MA
> >>> >> >> >> spec. According to the dealer it was leaking when I rode it
> in.
> >>> >> >> >>            Ever since I've owned it I've had to add oil
> >>> >> >> >> periodically
> >>> >> >> >> but come on - its got 56,000 miles on it and its 34 years old
> -
> >>> >> >> >> it's
> >>> >> >> >> gonna use a little oil.
> >>> >> >> >>            As to the amount - all I can tell you is that the
> >>> >> >> >> sight
> >>> >> >> >> glass (which BTW is a HORRIBLE way to check oil level in my
> >>> >> >> >> opinion)
> >>> >> >> >> was completely empty when I got home - in all fairness I'm
> sure
> >>> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> bike wasn't exactly level, but even where it was sitting it
> >>> >> >> >> should
> >>> >> >> >> have read at least something.
> >>> >> >> >>            My Girlfriend, who was following me, made the
> comment
> >>> >> >> >> that
> >>> >> >> >> she thought she smelled a distinct burning smell but actually
> >>> >> >> >> thought
> >>> >> >> >> it might have been her car.
> >>> >> >> >>           The irony of the whole thing - that 30 mile journey
> was
> >>> >> >> >> probably the best 30 miles I've had on that bike. I had no
> idea
> >>> >> >> >> how
> >>> >> >> >> badly the carbs were crummed up - it would appear that not
> long
> >>> >> >> >> after
> >>> >> >> >> I bought it I must have sucked some rust into the carbs and
> >>> >> >> >> partially
> >>> >> >> >> blocked one or more of the jets. It has never run better since
> >>> >> >> >> I've
> >>> >> >> >> owned it.
> >>> >> >> >>           Still frustrated - but I haven't been back out to
> look
> >>> >> >> >> at
> >>> >> >> >> it since last night when this was discovered.
> >>> >> >> >>            -Joey
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Allen Thomas
> >>> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> > Sorry to hear that Joey. I'm assuming the oil is leaking
> >>> >> >> >> > externally
> >>> >> >> >> > and
> >>> >> >> >> > not being burned up in the motor, correct. Where does the
> leak
> >>> >> >> >> > seem
> >>> >> >> >> > to be
> >>> >> >> >> > coming from? I know of a couple places where they are known
> to
> >>> >> >> >> > leak.
> >>> >> >> >> > Front
> >>> >> >> >> > sprocket seal, lower rear head gasket, valve covers, and
> also
> >>> >> >> >> > there
> >>> >> >> >> > are some
> >>> >> >> >> > o-rings people suggest replacing when doing a valve job
> because
> >>> >> >> >> > they
> >>> >> >> >> > can
> >>> >> >> >> > leak oil into the exhaust. Were the people at GSR any help?
> >>> >> >> >> > They
> >>> >> >> >> > would
> >>> >> >> >> > probably know more bike specific stuff, but I'm willing to
> help
> >>> >> >> >> > figure it
> >>> >> >> >> > out.
> >>> >> >> >> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> >> >> > From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >> > Sender: [email protected]
> >>> >> >> >> > Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:52:29
> >>> >> >> >> > To: <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> >>> >> >> >> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well it appears I'm hanging up
> my
> >>> >> >> >> > Leather
> >>> >> >> >> > Jacket
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > All,
> >>> >> >> >> >      I really wanted to tell you all the good news:
> >>> >> >> >> >       I picked up my GS-1000 from the dealer I had working
> on
> >>> >> >> >> > it.
> >>> >> >> >> >      Here is the bad news - well - two fold: One they had it
> >>> >> >> >> > over
> >>> >> >> >> > a
> >>> >> >> >> > month and two the bill was $869.
> >>> >> >> >> >      Here is the even worse news:
> >>> >> >> >> >      There is an oil leak so bad coming from some place they
> >>> >> >> >> > couldn't
> >>> >> >> >> > identify. To be fair I'm not exactly sure - but it appears
> to
> >>> >> >> >> > have
> >>> >> >> >> > leaked out and burned at least two quarts of oil on a 30
> mile
> >>> >> >> >> > ride
> >>> >> >> >> > home from the dealer.
> >>> >> >> >> >       The dealers opinion is that they cannot identify it
> >>> >> >> >> > without
> >>> >> >> >> > pulling the engine - possibly splitting the case -  and
> >>> >> >> >> > figuring
> >>> >> >> >> > out
> >>> >> >> >> > what is leaking.
> >>> >> >> >> >       The problem is - I have no place to work on the bike,
> not
> >>> >> >> >> > enough knowledge of the internals and (evidently) not enough
> >>> >> >> >> > money
> >>> >> >> >> > to
> >>> >> >> >> > be able to afford someone else to fix it for me.
> >>> >> >> >> >        I have now doubled my purchase price in repairs -
> and I
> >>> >> >> >> > can't
> >>> >> >> >> > ride it.
> >>> >> >> >> >        Thoughts? Suggestions?
> >>> >> >> >> >         Graham - want another GS-1000? Allen?
> >>> >> >> >> >        -Joey
> >>> >> >> >> > PS - No I'm not happy. :-(
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > --
> >>> >> >> >> > -Joey Kelley
> >>> >> >> >> > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online
> >>> >> >> >> > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do!
> >>> >> >> >> > JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow
> >>> >> >> >> >
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