Amen to that. I've been on both sides of the fence.
Dennis Christchurch From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pastor Ron Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife I hear the pain in this discussion. Most young couples that take the pre-marriage survey have unrealistic expectations. My goal is to educate them. Most at that point in time, before marriage, would do anything for their new bride or groom. And that works. But what happens, many times is one or both begin thinking, "I" "Me" and "My" and who cares about the other. The more they are focused on self, the more pain they will experience in marriage. And if they do not learn to work together and give of self they are destined to a stagnate marriage or even divorce. To repair that joy and love in marriage, they simply need to go back to the way they began and would do anything for their spouse to make them happy. The church is there to refocus us on serving our spouse. As God created us, as Christ laid down his life for the church on a cross we are to lay down our life for our spouse. There is a fallacy thinking today that marriage is a 50/50 deal. The current 50% divorce rate proves that that thought doesn't work. What works is a 100 / 100 percent in living. As we got older we realize that it is the relationships we create, nurture and sustain are what really matter. That's what I see from dealing with so many couples. If you are meeting her needs, she will want you to fulfill your passion for bikes. People, men and women who are self absorbed find lasting relationships difficult. Ron _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife Great life lesson. I learned a great deal ;) -Kyle On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:13 PM, mike21222 <[email protected]> wrote: When I was 13, I hoped that one day I would have a girlfriend with big boobs. When I was 16 I got a girlfriend with big boobs, but there was no passion, so I decided I needed a passionate girl with a zest for life. In college I dated a passionate girl, but she was too emotional. Everything was an emergency; she was a drama queen, cried all the time and threatened suicide. So I decided I needed a girl with stability. When I was 25 I found a very stable girl but she was boring. She was totally predictable and never got excited about anything. Life became so dull that I decided that I needed a girl with some excitement. When I was 28 I found an exciting girl, but I couldn't keep up with her. She rushed from one thing to another, never settling on anything. She did mad impetuous things and made me miserable as often as happy. She was great fun initially and very energetic, but directionless. So I decided to find a girl with some real ambition. When I turned 30, I found a smart ambitious girl with her feet planted firmly on the ground, so I married her. She was so ambitious that she divorced me and took everything I owned. I am older and wiser now, and I am looking for a girl with big boobs... Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 surfswab <[email protected]> wrote: Tried marriage once. Didn't like it much. In rare moments of introspection I've pondered what type of woman would fit the bill, should I have decided to try again. It came down to two options. The kind I needed -- a patient, understanding helpmate who would give good back rubs. Or the kind I wanted -- a deaf, dumb nymphomaniac who owned a liquor store. Neither has crossed my path. So I content myself with having as many motorcycles as I damn well please (!) On May 31, 10:29 am, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: > There is an old saying "You can't hitch a Mule to an Ox." They will just go around in a circle. In a good marriage you work together and respect each other. In a bad one that doesn't happen. Some people have a need for control, when they are married to someone who resents being controlled. It is bad news and hurt feeling all around. Be thankful you have a good marriage. There is more than just money and reason, to coming to a consensus on purchases. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:17:09 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > Who wants what gets worked out before the month begins. We allocate blow > money for eachother too. How you spend your blow money is entirely up to > you, that's why it's called "blow money". I like to let mine pile up and > purchase large items, she likes to blow hers the first wknd of every month > at the mall. We can't criticize the other though. I'm not saying that > buying the bike was a bad purchase, but if this is something the guy does > then set aside $1000 in a column for bike projects. When he sells one it > can go towards the next project. No budget is perfect for everyone, but > communication prior to large purchases is what keeps blow ups like this > from happening. > > -Kyle > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ** > > Sometimes it's not about the budget, and more about who wants what. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > ------------------------------ > > *From: * Kyle Munz <[email protected]> > > *Sender: * [email protected] > > *Date: *Thu, 31 May 2012 08:08:45 -0500 > > *To: *<[email protected]> > > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > > *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > > <Soapbox id='Budget'> > > Were the happy couple operating on a joint account with a written budget > > this situation could have never arisen, propensities towards drama or not. > > Agree on the budget before the month begins, then pinky swear not to break > > the budget during the month. Regardless of whether or not it can be flipped > > tomorrow for $2,000, if the $800 initial purchase isn't already set aside, > > it can't happen. Thus nobody is surprised, worried about how to pay the > > electric bill, or pissed off. If my "little missus" spent 800 unallocated > > dollars I'd be equally hot. If they were previously allocated I would have > > no grounds what-so-ever to be upset. If it's a surprise opportunity then > > both parties need to come together to reallocate funds. Both deciding that > > it's a good idea and which category is going to be $800 short. > > </Soapbox> > > > Thus is the magic of a written budget. As Ron says, working together > > rather than against each other. Sorry for ruining all the fun ;) > > > -Kyle > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Pastor Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> OK, OK, some marriage counseling is necessary. If you are not working > >> together you are working apart. Marriage that works is a marriage that > >> is a > >> giving of yourself to your spouse to make the other happy. When that > >> happens > >> you find joy in marriage. When two don't care about the others opinions' > >> and > >> feelings bad things can happen, and certainly not a fulfilling joy filled > >> marriage. I would rather have one motorcycle and a happy wife, than 10 > >> motorcycles and a sucky marriage. Building respect and trust in my > >> relationship with my wife, has overcome her fears, and allowed me to buy > >> motorcycles. If his Harley neighbor took the time to explain it to his > >> wife, that he was going to make some money on the deal, it could have led > >> to > >> a wild night with his wife. Just saying. > >> Ron > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas > >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:36 AM > >> To: Nightwawk Lovers > >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > >> Nope, even though they are like kids that never grow up. > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > >> Sender: [email protected] > >> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:28:39 > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Reply-To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > >> How about dogs? > >> That count? > >> -Joey > > >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Give it 7 more years or add kids to the equation. > >> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > >> > Sender: [email protected] > >> > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:14:41 > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Reply-To: [email protected] > >> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > >> > Allen, > >> > Guess you better add my name to the exceptions. Paula and I > >> > have been together just over a year now - and there is very little > >> > tension in my house. Not saying we're perfect, but we're certainly > >> > doing well! > >> > -Joey > > >> > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> As with any generalizations, there are always exceptions. That's just > >> my > >> observation of the women in my life. You got a special one, count your > >> blessings. > >> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> > >> >> Sender: [email protected] > >> >> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:08:00 > >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> Reply-To: [email protected] > >> >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > >> >> My wife doesn't seem to want drama in her life. Although she does what > >> she can to alleviate drama in anybody else's life. She finds fulfillment > >> in > >> helping others, Graham > > >> >> On May 31, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: > > >> >>> Personally I think women need drama in their life. If they don't get > >> enough, then they will make it. So as a husband it seems best just to do > >> what you want and give them something to complain about. Because they will > >> complain no matter what, even if your totally compliant to their desires. > >> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: surfswab <[email protected]> > >> >>> Sender: [email protected] > >> >>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 04:18:01 > >> >>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]> > >> >>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >> >>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > >> >>> Dunno if he plans to flip it, but he could get that for it easily. > >> >>> Less than 7K on the clock. > > >> >>> And he wouldn't even have to deal with Craigslist or Ebay, just park > >> >>> it on the floor at the dealership. I suspect he'll hang on to it for > >> >>> awhile, though, just to keep a burr under her saddle. > > >> >>> Ain't love grand? > > >> >>> On May 31, 2:16 am, brian lindsley <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>>> I bet she wont be so mad if he sells it for $2000 and gets her a nice > >> >>>> bobble or something with the $1200 profit he made!!! > > >> >>>> On May 30, 8:19 pm, surfswab <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >>>>> My neighbor is a Harley mechanic for a local dealership. Quiet guy, > >> >>>>> doesn't talk much. > > >> >>>>> But his wife does. > > >> >>>>> He scored a non-running '02 Buell Cyclone over the weekend and we > >> >>>>> hauled it to his house in my pickup. Apparently, he had not > >> mentioned > >> >>>>> the purchase to her and she was livid. > > >> >>>>> "I can't believe you spent $800 on that thing...and it doesn't even > >> >>>>> run!" was one of her milder comments. > > >> >>>>> He just smirked and wheeled it into his garage and I left. Didn't > >> >>>>> want to hang around with an irate female on the loose (!) > > >> >>>>> Three hours later he was popping wheelies up and down the street. > >> So > >> >>>>> I'm thinking, quiet as he is, maybe he got the last word in. > > >> >>>>> But somehow I doubt it. > > >> >>> -- > >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> >>> To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] <mailto:nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> . > >> >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >> >>> -- > >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> >>> To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] <mailto:nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> . > >> >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups > >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> . > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] <mailto:nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> . > >> >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >> >> -- > > ... > > read more > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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