I ride whenever I can, typically based on weather. -----Original Message----- From: "Hawaii Sean" <[email protected]> Sent: 12/28/2012 4:26 PM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line
Thanks Kurt - I also fall into the rare 365 day a year rider. I'm lucky because of the weather in Hawaii but I know other people on this thred ride year round in places I would last for more than about 30 seconds walking down the street let alone on a bike. I don't see the bike as a luxury or "fun" to ride - although it is - they're my basic form of transportation first. In fact for about 2 years my wife and I had one car and the bike. My kids were 8, 10 and 12 at the time. Most people who own bikes ride a lot less then probably everyone in this group so we do have a different perspective. Aloha Sean On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:38:23 AM UTC-10, Kurt Nolte wrote: > > All the info I can find on the original 250 put the redline at just shy of > 19k RPM... I'd say they were gutless in the torque department, probably had > to be ridden like a two-stroke, and weren't available for terribly long. > Two years, I think? > > Sean, > Yeah, it's a rant, and it's a good one, but unfortunately outside of the > touring/sport touring and cruiser segments, the market disagrees with you. > A majority of riders are solo all the time, especially in the sport, super > sport and dual sport markets. Adventure probably splits unevenly, solo > being the heavier portion. Fact is a lot of people see that second seat as > a convenience, not a necessity. I'll admit I'm solo 100% of the time on the > bike; we tried it with the GF on the back, she didn't like it, so I don't > push it. Perhaps we'll try again with a bigger bike, but I don't want her > uncomfortable. > > -Kurt > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> I should think so - at that size they must not have had much torque? >> -Joey >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Kurt Nolte >> <[email protected]<javascript:> >> > wrote: >> >>> Joey, >>> >>> There were a few 400 - 4s, and the original CBR250 was a 4; talk about >>> sewing machines! >>> >>> Kurt >>> On Dec 28, 2012 3:22 PM, "Joey Kelley" <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Graham, >>>> Thanks! Where there any other under 500cc fours? Oh and I >>>> bet that thing runs like a sewing machine! >>>> -Joey >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Graham Rogers >>>> <[email protected]<javascript:> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> 350F was a 350 cc inline 4 - 70's Honda - pic attached >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<javascript:> >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>> Visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sean, >>>>> The Nighthawk 250 and 450 lines were twins.... Traditionally >>>>> the line in the sand was anything below 500ccs was a twin - anything >>>>> larger >>>>> was a four. (At least in the 70s and 80s Hondas that I'm aware of - >>>>> someone >>>>> feel free to correct me if I've missed something) >>>>> -Joey >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Hawaii Sean >>>>> <[email protected]<javascript:> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> OK I'm really not a purest but.... Aren't the CB line in-line 4- >>>>>> cylinder bikes? >>>>>> >>>>>> A CB500F makes sense to me in that it would be a great bike for >>>>>> communting that you can on longer trips - probably a lot like my 95 750. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, it has a sport bike seat which is just plain confusing to me. >>>>>> If >>>>>> I'm commuting I want comfort and if I have a rider on the back I don't >>>>>> want >>>>>> them having to lean up against me - that's what sport bikes are for. It >>>>>> you look at the pictures you see that the rider is always leaning >>>>>> forward - >>>>>> I guess to make the bike look more sporty. However, in normal riding >>>>>> you'd >>>>>> be more upright. Time will tell but I think the CB500F is one of those >>>>>> bikes that just don't fit into any market. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd take a long hard look at the NC700 or NV700 before I thought >>>>>> about the CB500F. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sean >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:38:26 AM UTC-10, Allen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks like Honda is releasing a trio of 500cc parallel twins. one is >>>>>>> an adventure bike basically a scalled down NC700x, but the other two >>>>>>> are a >>>>>>> CBR, and a CB. All of them are to be sold for less than $6000. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CBR: >>>>>>> http://www.fasterandfaster.**net/2012/11/2013-honda-** >>>>>>> cbr500r-specs-details.html<http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2012/11/2013-honda-cbr500r-specs-details.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CB: >>>>>>> http://www.fasterandfaster.**net/2012/11/2013-cb500f-specs-** >>>>>>> first-official-high.html<http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2012/11/2013-cb500f-specs-first-official-high.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]<javascript:> >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -Joey Kelley >>>>> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >>>>> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >>>>> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<javascript:> >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>> Visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -Joey Kelley >>>> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >>>> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >>>> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<javascript:> >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<javascript:> >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> Visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> -Joey Kelley >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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