I guess there are a few still brand new?  At 9k I like it much better than
the chain drive scooter motor ctx's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zw2Q4q3sZM


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> When I was in the Marines we were taught how to drive HMMWV (Humm V) which
> are automatics. When offroading I'd argue they are better. On one of those
> if you need to control wheel spin, then you hold the brake and throttle,
> then control your motion by easing pressure off the brake. As for going
> down extremely steep grades where brakes are too dangerous to use, you put
> the truck in reverse and use throttle to control decent speed.
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> ------------------------------
> *From: * Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
> *Sender: * [email protected]
> *Date: *Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:30:34 -0500
> *To: *nighthawk_lovers<[email protected]>
> *ReplyTo: * [email protected]
> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda DN 01
>
> I was not commenting on this particular case because the article says
> something about the car being equipped with something else. But you always
> hear these stories about gas pedals getting stuck, and apparently the
> driver had no other option? I will argue that manual transmission is
> actually safer in mountain roads, our even in the case of break failure.
>
> Javier
> On Mar 5, 2013 9:42 AM, "Kyle Munz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If you read the article he was screaming along at 125mph for over an hour
>> until he ran out of gas. The police also had a Renault technician on the
>> line to see if he could help (I would love to get a transcript of THAT
>> conversation). I'm guessing during that time somebody suggested trying
>> putting it in neutral.
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Either Kyle's comment or just simple Panic would or could cause one to
>>> not put it in Neutral as well.
>>>           I'd take a bet on panic - cause you can always turn the
>>> ignition off as well when driving....
>>>           -Joey
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> So I have heard about similar incidents where for example, the gas
>>>> pedal gets stucked and the driver cannot control the speed... but... why
>>>> isn't that they can't put it in neutral?
>>>>
>>>> Javier.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Another argument in favor of having a "clutch" device in each car...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/13/french-driver-200kmh-car-chase?CMP=SOCNETTXT6966
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have long maintained that the automatic transmission was the start
>>>>>> of the 'disconnect' between people who drive cars and 'DRIVERS' - ie -
>>>>>> You've got to pay attention when you're shifting, but when you're not
>>>>>> shifting, you have time to play with the radio, the GPS navigation 
>>>>>> system,
>>>>>> cell phone, etc.
>>>>>>          My first three vehicles with four wheels were stick shifts -
>>>>>> as was my Fiancee's first car. (She still has it) She has made the 
>>>>>> decision
>>>>>> that she 'wouldn't want to be without it'. It provides control under went
>>>>>> and slippery conditions, something we have a lot of up here in the snow
>>>>>> belt, since ABS will help you stop, but isn't so much about getting you
>>>>>> going.
>>>>>>          My current four wheeled ride is an auto - I wish it wasn't.
>>>>>>          It seems that the trend in vehicles is more autos - not
>>>>>> necessarily CVTs but certainly automatics. It makes finding a stick
>>>>>> relatively difficult if you're looking on the used market, particularly 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you're both in a hurry and on a budget.
>>>>>>          As to how would I react to an automatic bike - I think I
>>>>>> would react much like the rest of you on this thread - it just seems 
>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>> That having been said more motorcyclists is a good thing - but - it just
>>>>>> seems to me if you're willing to carve a turn you want to shift while 
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>           -Joey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Ross M. Jamison <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All mine are auto.  I wouldn't mind a stick shift.  However, I get
>>>>>>> whatever car is left when everyone in the house chooses theirs for the
>>>>>>> day.  My NH is the only thing I can claim as mine!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nighthawkin **
>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 4, 2013 2:24 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda DN 01
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so i am assuming everyone here drives a stick shift automobile???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might not be permitted under the rules, yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I am on your side; I would much rather ride
>>>>>>>> something that I have to shift than something that does it for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the fact is that in certain performance aspects, the DCT is
>>>>>>>> -clearly- superior, and unfortunately those aspects are also ones that
>>>>>>>> appeal to lots of squids, who buy lots of new bikes. Which means that 
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> a matter of time before a DCT option makes greater penetration in the
>>>>>>>> market. I just hope it won't be too big a share...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Kurt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>> Until Honda puts it on their moto GP bike I'll stand on it isn't
>>>>>>>>> better than a clutch and an air shifter.
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