not sure I would feel confident enough to fly down a steep grade in reverse ...
On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: > When I was in the Marines we were taught how to drive HMMWV (Humm V) which > are automatics. When offroading I'd argue they are better. On one of those if > you need to control wheel spin, then you hold the brake and throttle, then > control your motion by easing pressure off the brake. As for going down > extremely steep grades where brakes are too dangerous to use, you put the > truck in reverse and use throttle to control decent speed. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > From: Javier Garcia <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:30:34 -0500 > To: nighthawk_lovers<[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda DN 01 > > I was not commenting on this particular case because the article says > something about the car being equipped with something else. But you always > hear these stories about gas pedals getting stuck, and apparently the driver > had no other option? I will argue that manual transmission is actually safer > in mountain roads, our even in the case of break failure. > > Javier > > On Mar 5, 2013 9:42 AM, "Kyle Munz" <[email protected]> wrote: > If you read the article he was screaming along at 125mph for over an hour > until he ran out of gas. The police also had a Renault technician on the line > to see if he could help (I would love to get a transcript of THAT > conversation). I'm guessing during that time somebody suggested trying > putting it in neutral. > > -Kyle > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: > Either Kyle's comment or just simple Panic would or could cause one to not > put it in Neutral as well. > I'd take a bet on panic - cause you can always turn the ignition > off as well when driving.... > -Joey > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: > So I have heard about similar incidents where for example, the gas pedal gets > stucked and the driver cannot control the speed... but... why isn't that they > can't put it in neutral? > > Javier. > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > Another argument in favor of having a "clutch" device in each car... > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/13/french-driver-200kmh-car-chase?CMP=SOCNETTXT6966 > > > -Kyle > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: > I have long maintained that the automatic transmission was the start of the > 'disconnect' between people who drive cars and 'DRIVERS' - ie - You've got to > pay attention when you're shifting, but when you're not shifting, you have > time to play with the radio, the GPS navigation system, cell phone, etc. > My first three vehicles with four wheels were stick shifts - as was > my Fiancee's first car. (She still has it) She has made the decision that she > 'wouldn't want to be without it'. It provides control under went and slippery > conditions, something we have a lot of up here in the snow belt, since ABS > will help you stop, but isn't so much about getting you going. > My current four wheeled ride is an auto - I wish it wasn't. > It seems that the trend in vehicles is more autos - not necessarily > CVTs but certainly automatics. It makes finding a stick relatively difficult > if you're looking on the used market, particularly if you're both in a hurry > and on a budget. > As to how would I react to an automatic bike - I think I would react > much like the rest of you on this thread - it just seems wrong. That having > been said more motorcyclists is a good thing - but - it just seems to me if > you're willing to carve a turn you want to shift while doing it. > -Joey > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Ross M. Jamison > <[email protected]> wrote: > All mine are auto. I wouldn't mind a stick shift. However, I get whatever > car is left when everyone in the house chooses theirs for the day. My NH is > the only thing I can claim as mine!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: nighthawkin > Sent: Mar 4, 2013 2:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda DN 01 > > so i am assuming everyone here drives a stick shift automobile??? > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> wrote: > Might not be permitted under the rules, yet. > > Don't get me wrong, I am on your side; I would much rather ride something > that I have to shift than something that does it for me. > > But the fact is that in certain performance aspects, the DCT is -clearly- > superior, and unfortunately those aspects are also ones that appeal to lots > of squids, who buy lots of new bikes. Which means that it's a matter of time > before a DCT option makes greater penetration in the market. I just hope it > won't be too big a share... > > -Kurt > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > Until Honda puts it on their moto GP bike I'll stand on it isn't better than > a clutch and an air shifter. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > -Joey Kelley > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! 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