Graham,

 

That's a sweet outcome.  I'm very happy for you and all of your family that
it turned out so well.

 

Cheers from way down south,

 

Dennis

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Rogers
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 11:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Back from the beyond

 

Back from the beyond describes her progress so the thread fits.  She's now
driving and doing excellent.  She does best when not reminded of what she
went through because as she says, it's like talking about another person.
She's no longer in any therapy but goes to a fitness center 3 or 4 times a
week with her husband and does brain improving stuff from off the internet
on an iPad. Her memory far surpasses mine.  Graham

 

On Oct 12, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Dennis Gallagher wrote:





Graham,

 

We've already got one that my girlfriend owns.  I'm going to go look at it
and see what it does.  Thanks for the tip!

 

When I left the group to go traveling back in late December, you were still
deep into dealing with the unfortunate things that had befallen your
daughter.  As I recall, she was making excellent progress at the point. 

 

Can you catch me up or point me to a summary you may have written about it
all so I can know how things turned out for all of you?

 

Thanks, my friend,

 

Dennis

Christchurch

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Rogers
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 4:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Back from the beyond

 

Dennis,  don't get a trickle charger, one that just continually charges at
.5 amps or whatever, get a maintainer, one that chargers and then switches
off when it is fully charged.  Graham

 

On Oct 11, 2013, at 11:18 PM, Dennis Gallagher wrote:






Well, it turned out to be the battery as everyone thought.   I went and
bought a sealed battery unit for $140 NZD and popped it in and vaarooooom -
we were good to go.   Thanks, gentlemen for your thoughts on this!

 

I'm going to swap the new battery into my '86 CB700, which has been down for
sometime with what I thought was a blown starter motor but now I'm
wondering.  Worth a try, eh?   I might get both my babies up and running.
If the '86 starts, I'm going to buy another battery of the same type and,
hopefully, leave all battery problems behind me for a number of years.

 

Oh yes, and there's going to be some trickle charger action here soon as
well.

 

Dennis

Christchurch



On Friday, October 11, 2013 5:16:26 PM UTC+13, Dennis Gallagher wrote:

Hey all,

 

Back in late December, I shut the spigot on getting E-Mail from this group
because I was going to be off traveling for an extended period.  And I knew
that my two CB700's would just be sitting quietly out in the garage waiting
for my return.

 

Well, I'm back and I wanted to step back into the stream here again for my
dose of Nighthawk mania. 

 

But, before I could even do that (I've been home just four days now), I've
already got a motorcycle problem!  So, rather than just re-joining for a
chat and some lurking, I've got issues I need help on.

 

Yesterday, I recharged the battery on my '85, popped the battery in and
cranked it over.   It took a long time before I got it to fire and then keep
running but it eventually did.  All good, I thought.   I took it around the
block, visited the local service station and put the air pressure up in the
tires and was well satisfied with things.

 

Today, I took it down the the New Zealand version of the Department of Motor
Vehicles and got it inspected (a requirement here every six months) and then
re-registered it.  All good.  Lights, brakes and everything looked good to
them and they passed it with no problems.

 

Then I took off to do some errands and, wouldn't you know it, after my
second errand (now I'm on the far side of Christchurch from where I live) I
came out, hit the starter and got a weird buzzing noise rather than the
normal starter motor noises.   Mmmmm.  Not good.

 

After a few attempts at wiggling things and trying to start it again, even
the weird buzzing noise stopped and the dash lights dimmed away to zero when
I hit the starter.  So, I'm thinking 'this battery's dead'.

 

I fussed with it and pulled the battery and several of the cells were low.
I remembered that it had been full up when I put it on the charger yesterday
but when I took it off the charger, I never rechecked the cell levels.  So,
I assume that the recharge must have driven off some of the water in it (or
the aliens came and took it?).

 

Regardless, I'm focused on the battery now. 

 

I tried a quick push-start but that did nothing.  I had another problem
there.   When I put the bike in 3rd and tried to push it for a pop-start, I
can feel the engine dragging even though the clutch lever's all the way in.
So I know my clutch reservoir's brake fluid is low and maybe I have some air
in the line.  So, it's not looking like push starting will be an option
unless several gorillas come along to help me push.  And if the battery's
sincerely dead, would it run anyway?

 

I call my girlfriend and she comes and gets me and off we go home after
stashing the beast behind an art and framing shop.  At home, I top up the
battery cells with tap water (yes, I know I should have used distilled) and
put it back onto the charger for an hour and 30 minutes.

 

Then, back into the car and we're away to the motorcycle again.   I pop the
battery in, turn the key and I get the same weird buzzing noise again.  I
trace it and it is in the starter relay coil making the racket. 

 

So, that's the situation now.

 

My thoughts are that perhaps the battery (which was old) has packed it in
and won't hold enough charge now to fully engage the starter motor relay and
send juice onto the starter motor - hence the buzz and vibration which are
definitely coming from the relay.

 

If so, then I'm puzzled how, yesterday, when I was struggling to start it, I
was able to crank it for several long sessions before I got it to run.  How
could the battery be that strong then and so lame now?

 

Maybe, one of the plates in the battery has failed (is that possible?) and
so it went from being able to do several good cranks to being seriously weak
now?

 

I had the starter motor fail on my '86 CB6700 several years ago (I wrote the
repair details all up here on the Nighthawk group) but the symptoms were
different than this.   Then, I just got a solid click and nothing else.

 

Nighthawk gurus, what are your thoughts on this?

 

Dennis

Christchurch, New Zealand

 

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