Saiyam suggested that I might like to try out ubuntu linux, as that automatically detected his wireless network, and he has hardware similar to mine.
So, I went ahead and installed ubuntu, and indeed, it set up wireless automatically and without so much as a single ifconfig command or look at kwifimanager. And certainly not a single pump command (my new favorite command name, it means "pump" your dhcp server for an ip address) I have heard good things about ubuntu before, and I see why. So, if you want to fight your way through iwlist commands and so forth, you can use knoppix or worse yet fedora core 4. Or, you can install ubuntu and actually do some real work soon thereafter. http://www.ubuntu.com/ Very nice suggestion, thanks Saiyam! Ted -- Ted Pedersen http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nlpatumd/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

