Wow, you certainly feel passionately about this!  It is that kind of 
passion that can make events like this great.  How about volunteering to 
help out / run the next phreaknic?  Now, you may think I am being 
sarcastic, or rude, or facetious but I am not.  I am serious.  Events 
like this require dedication, passion, and commitment.  Often, the 
planning and organization for these events can take more than 9 months.  
Finding a venue is probably already underway and, sadly, for events like 
phreaknic the same venue will often not accept a 2nd booking due to the 
rowdiness of the participants.  Planning 48 hours of parallel events 
(sometimes 3, 4, or even 5 streams at the same time) and getting people 
to commit to filling these slots along with backups and contingencies 
for when people back out weeks, days, or even hours in advance.  Then 
you have to organize catering to feed all the attendees, the speakers, 
and the staff.  You may also have to arrange for room, board, and travel 
for special guests, speakers, and celebrities.  On top of all this, you 
have to play accountant and loan shark^h^h^h^h^h officer for the event 
as much of the funding for the event doesn't come in until immediately 
before or during the event.

Then, once you pull it off, take a weekend for yourself and your 
wife/girlfriend/husband/boyfriend/significant other/partner, you start 
the whole process over again... or it doesn't happen next year.

Andy


linux_losers wrote:
> First off let me say, I attended Phreaknic this weekend expecting a
> great experience, catch a few security talks, trade a few tips at Root
> Wars. I did not get any of that. It was one of the most poorly
> organized events I have been too in the past few years.
>
> Who wants to attend a lecture from a nerd about how to pick up women?
> Who cares what Google has to say about Malware?
>
> When I asked a staff member what was going on  I got the reply," What
> does the program say?"
>
> You want people to pay twenty-five dollars to come here and then be a
> dick to them?
>
> The NLUG group was visible for a "mass install" with about 5 machines
> running ubuntu.
>
> Root Wars had 6 or 7 guys sitting at a table with a command prompt
> open, no scripts running nothing just talking about World of Warcraft
> or something. And when they were asked a question about, what OS was
> the box running or had anyone gotten ROOT yet, the answer was.
>
> "I Don't Know" followed by everyone staring at their feet.
>
> Now antisocial is one thing, but if you can't carry on a conversation
> about a computer at a "Hacker-CON" then what is the point of living?
>
> With that said, I am not here to flame, though I am sure I will get my
> fair share. But damn, at least let people know that all Phreaknic is
> about is hanging out at a hotel on the ghetto side of Nashville with
> some underage kids drinking and hanging out with only their online
> friends. Not one person made me or my group feel like we should be
> there because we were not part of the group.
>
> If I wanted to sit around and drink with ugly girls and get drunk, I
> could do it at a much better place, for a much cheaper price.
>
> Preaknic = FAIL
>   


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