On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Michael Chaney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


    Chris, chill.  Your "legitimate question" contained the
implication
    that there is some major difference between mailing list software,
and
    that Google Groups was substandard in this ranking.  The premise
was
    pretty dumb.


I appreciate you taking the time to respond, but I don't like your
tone.  Never have.  Saying my legitimate question in quotes further
proves you are trolling.  Again, if you'll read my OP, you will see
that I do indeed like Google Groups and I was wondering why the
switch. Since Andrew and Rob have already clarified the switch over, I
don't need to question any further.  Whether my premise was dumb or
not is not up to you to decide.  If you can't say something nice,
don't say it at all.



    Anyway....

    NLUG has never paid for a mailing list.  NetCentral hosted the
list in
    prior years and did so freely.  It has nothing to do with money.
    NetCentral had also asked us to find another list host years ago,
and
    Google Groups seemed to be the best option (with an automatic
archive,
    web interface, etc.) when someone got around to moving it.


Nah, that's cool, I'm glad you got around to clarifying it further
without being snarky.  I would understand that by being a Linux User
Group, you would indeed have your own servers host your own mailing
list, web server, mail server, etc.  It would just be assumed.



    Now, let me help you with nomenclature.  A "troll" is a message
that
    is specifically crafted to elicit a response from the clueless.
It
    comes from the meaning in fishing where you basically drag a line
    around a lake hoping something will bite.  Here, I looked it up in
the
    dictionary for you:


I don't need "help" from you to clarify what a troll is.  You've
proved it several times in the past and today.  My OP was not meant to
troll, illicit bad thoughts, etc.  If you read my OP and had a bad
thought about it, I would have to say that you took it the wrong way
and went on the defensive early on.



    Quote:
    Hacker Slang: troll
    To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable
responses
    or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling
for
    newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style
of
    fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for
a
    bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of
    newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless
than
    they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and
    experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't
fall
    for the joke, you get to be in on it.
    End Quote


I see that if my original post was a legitimate question looking for a
legitimate answer and the next post is a "sarcastic" message, it would
seem that in fact you are the troll and you were looking for a rise
out of me.  I could have easily ignored you and went on about my day
and been comfortable in the fact that you are a troll and nothing
more.  In retrospect, I should have.



    What I posted was a sarcastic response to a dumb question, maybe a
    flame, whatever.  Sarcasm!=troll.  A reasonable troll on this list
    would be someone asking a really stupid Windows question, pointing
out
    that vim is better than emacs, that Suse rules while RedHat
drools,
    something along those lines.


Stop changing the context of your 1st response into a "sarcastic"
response meant to show wit in front of your peers.  You were
trolling.  no doubt about it. Mike, you are no different than you were
10 years ago and nether am I.




    Chris, had I realized it was "Chris Faulkner" instead of "Dr. X"
or
    whatever, I wouldn't have even replied.  So, consider this the
    last....


Consider what the last?  My next reply or next "legitimate question"
will be trolled again by you so stop trying to be magnanimous.  You
are no better than anyone else on the list, or the world for that
matter.



    Michael
    --
    Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr.
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    http://www.michaelchaney.com/

    


Cheers!

--
Chris Faulkner
615-653-4400 (Skype: chris.faulkner615)
Linux/Unix/Windows Network Engineer

BBS Enthusiast group: http://groups.google.com/group/80sbbs

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