We are, of course, each entitled to our opinion(s)! :) One thing is certain, we will all eventually see how it all shakes out.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John R. Dennison Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 6:02 PM To: Mark J Bailey (JobsoftInc) Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nlug] well, this will cause a "few" CentOS-based projects/products a "wee bit" of complication On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 04:43:34PM -0500, Mark J Bailey (JobsoftInc) wrote: > http://nerdvittles.com/?p=8721 Old news. > Ward Mundy at Nerd Vittles has always been level headed (IMHO) and thorough. I've never read anything else by him that I can recall but this specific article is chock-full of FUD. > and is now putting some new restrictions on the use of CentOS as the > basis for a custom distribution (product or project - like Scientific > Linux or > Elastix) unless it is an "official" CentOS packaging/distribution. Not > sure There are no restrictions on the use of CentOS other than the same restrictions that apply to any other US corporation as far as export laws go. The restrictions are on the mis-use of the various project marks which the project has been unable to enforce for various reasons throughout the years. > if they will provide a way for one to be "certified" by Red Hat or > not, but either way, this is going to rain on quite a few parades. End > users can still install CentOS and then load other stuff, but the days > of the open and free use of CentOS as the basis for a rolled up > specialized distro are now over. This is absolutely false. You are not permitted to use the CentOS brand or marks in such a project any longer unless it's been authorized by the CentOS Board. Technically these projects have been infringing on marks in one way or another all along for the most part anyway so good riddance. You are still free to go through the same debranding process to remove any infringing material (most notably the artwork) as CentOS itself has to go through when respining upstream packages and then you can ship anything you want, sans mark infringement. > To think Red Hat actually appreciated all that revenue being lost to > CentOS over the past decade was just that. wishful thinking. > Obviously, as Ward points out, this is going to take a while to > legally settle out, and could really muddy the waters. If you can provide _tangible_ numbers with regards to "lost revenue" I would dearly love to see them. I've been hearing this same line for the past decade and as of yet there has been no justification for such claims. Some RHAT sales pukes were pissy about lost commissions - boo hoo. Red Hat _management_ have been on record for years saying that CentOS is a valuable asset and not a revenue sink. I am unsure as to what anyone thinks needs to be legally settled in this. It's a done deal. > Wow! Who didn't see this coming?! Me :( And I've been involved with the project in one way or another or nearly the entire past decade. No one saw this coming. This was straight out of left field. John -- We're not ending the journey today, we're completing a chapter of a journey that will never end. Let's light this shuttle one more time ... and witness this nation at its best. The crew of Atlantis is ready to launch. -- Atlantis Commander Chris Ferguson, just before the 11:29:29am EDT launch of STS-135, the final Space Shuttle mission, 8 July 2011 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
